Royal Family only for muggles?
alhewison
Ali at zymurgy.org
Sat Jul 6 22:14:05 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 40861
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "davewitley" <dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:
SNIP
> OK, there are two questions here. First, the royal family. It
seems pretty clear that the wizarding world is politically fairly
closely aligned with the Muggle one. The Minister for Magic is
understood to be the UK such. There are some misaligments:
Transylvania has its own (national) Quidditch team, but in the main,
countries are the same. (It's even possible that Transylvania holds
a similar position to Scotland and England as a 'nation'.)
> Furthermore, there is a some sort of official link between the UK
> prime minister (PM) and the MOM (see the Daily Prophet on the
Knight Bus in POA). The split between Muggle and Magical worlds is
> therefore not complete even at the time of the books.
>
> I would say it's most likely therefore that UK wizards regard
> themselves as British (or at least Welsh, Irish, etc.) and see the
> Queen as head of state. But, like most British people, they don't
> pay any attention to the royal family in day to day life, except on
> the odd special occasion.
>
David
I fully agree with this line of reasoning, and there is canon to
support the idea that the British WW see the Queen as its head of
state. When Crouch-Moody places Harry's class under the Imperius
Curse, "Dean Thomas hopped three times around the room, singing the
national anthem". GoF p.203 UK Hardback edition. IMO this national
anthem MUST be the British Muggle one, or it would have been signed
posted as the WW national anthem for us Muggles to understand that
there is a separate one (Harry would notice this, just like Wizard
Chess is specifically named so that we know it's different). As our
national anthem is "God Save the Queen", this would imply that they
recognise the Queen.
Ali
Who wonders if Dean knew the words to the second verse as she doesn't
know many people who do!
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