The Kissing of Barty Crouch (was: Fudge and the Longbottoms)

[lizbot1981]

No: HPFGUIDX 40960

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Edblanning at a... wrote:
>we 
> *are*, however told  in POA that the Dementors had *permission* to 
administer 
> the Kiss directly to Sirius, if he were captured, implying that was 
not their 
> automatic right.
> 
> Which implies either that they had been given prior permission to 
*Kiss* 
> Barty Crouch Jr. (implying that that Fudge or someone in authority 
in the MoM 
> *did* know he was still alive), or that Fudge gave the Dementor in 
question 
> instructions on the way up to the castle (again implying that Fudge 
knew, or 
> accepted what was going on, somewhat surprising, if we are to 
believe his 
> performance in 'the Parting of The Ways'), or, perhaps even more 
worryingly, 
> that the Dementors are out of Fudge's control.

I always assumed that the dementors were out of Fudge's control.  
After all, at the end of PoA, weren't they going to administer the 
Kiss to Harry?  They certainly weren't given permission to do that.  
Besides, if there were a sure-fire way to control them, Dumbledore 
wouldn't be so concerned about them turning to Voldemort's side (at 
the end of GoF).  However, just because the dementors are out of the 
wizards' control doesn't mean your theory is wrong.  I rather like 
the idea that Fudge had the dementor there as the first step in 
covering up a political scandal.

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