Sirius's house (was Re: More emotional baggage for Snape)

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 41688

SK wrote:
 
> Darrin writes:
> 
> "James and Lily in Gryffindor, based on JKR."
> 
> Richelle Votaw responds:
> 
> "Does anyone know where the quote is from that JKR said James was in
> Gryffindor?  I found the quote about Lily being in Gryffindor in 
the October
> 2000 Scholastic interview, but can't find the one about James."
> 
> Let me try to enlighten you.  The interview usually cited is the 
one where
> Jo responds to a question that James was a Chaser.  The questioner 
assumed
> he played on the Gryffindor team, but Jo didn't confirm or correct 
that
> assumption.  So she only half answers the question, leaving us to 
wonder
> whether she was being efficient or just coy.
> 


Again, I say that the answer is much less ambigious than people 
looking for clues while waiting for OoP to come out want to make it. 
The analogy I continually use is if someone who had never seen 
basketball asks: "What position did Michael Jordan play for the 
Bulls?"

The answer is "shooting guard."

This reads to me the same thing here. I allow it's not 100 percent, 
but count me in on the efficient side of this argument. 


> Darrin assumes:
> 
> "Snape's hatred of them indicates they weren't Slytherin."
> 
> Richelle responds:
> 
> "What if they were all in the same house?  And Snape was more of 
a "true
> Slytherin" as in being interested in dark arts, etc.  And thus they 
didn't
> like him.  I'm trying to find a way for someone good to have been in
> Slytherin, or else why don't they mark all Slytherins as "possible 
future
> traitor."
> 
> IMHO,  the book makes no official charge that Slytherans are bad, 
this is
> just one of Harry's prejudices.  I'm still sitting back waiting for 
the good
> Slytheran to stand up and be noticed.  Of course, Harry would 
probably
> assume evil intent.
> 


Why wouldn't Harry assume nastiness? No Slytherin YET has shown a 
speck of decency. It's not just Draco and Riddle. Crabbe and Goyle 
are thugs. Pansy is catty to the extreme. Millicent is a bully and 
Marcus Flint cheats at Quidditch. Granted, little of this is Azkaban-
worthy stuff, but in four books, two 40-page supplements and a movie, 
we haven't had one decent Slytherin.

Even Snape could hardly be called a good person. He's just someone 
who's chosen the right side.

So, if some Slytherin wants to change the perceptions of fellow 
students (It's not just Harry -- most of the rest of the Hogwarts 
students want to see Slytherin fail) then he or she needs to step 
forward.

Because I do agree that there has to be some good to the Slytherins, 
or else why would Hogwarts put up with them? Remember, Salazar bailed 
after only a couple of years, yet the other three continued to sort 
kids into his house, maintained it as an equal and took pains to make 
sure the Sorting Hat would continue looking for his kind of student. 
Barring some magical covenant where they literally can't get out of 
it, it seems Helga, Godric and Rowena are keeping Salazar around for 
some reason.

And I don't see where any of this refutes my "assumption" that Snape 
and Sirius and Lupin were probably not in the same house. 

At least, didn't end up in the same house ;)

Darrin
-- Maybe there was once a fifth house, named after the greatest 
wizard of his age, who had the logo of a mighty elephant. You know 
who I mean... DUDLEY DURSLEY! And our Dudders is the reincarnation of 
old DD.

OK, Darrin, bedtime.