More about Ron, was Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Hurt-Comfort and reader crushes

[Laura Ingalls Huntley]

No: HPFGUIDX 39377

I said:
> Plus, it doesn't beginning to make up the whole thing with the Krum
> doll for me...that part always made me feel *very* uneasy.. 


Susanne queried:
>Why is that?

Well, you know..

Wait.  It *didn't* bother you.  *looks at Susanne in awe*.  I mean, I guess I would be uncomfortable having a toy (or a painting, etc.) such as the ones in the Potterverse...I mean..Harry's dragon seemed almost *sentient* (for a dragon)...and the paintings are certainly just as human as any of the ghosts...It seems allot different than having say..a battery operated mannequin or something..

I guess Ron might not feel this way -- having been accustomed to such things..but still..mutilating it like that...It shows allot of hate, in my opinion...esp. in the wizarding world -- where magic is an everyday thing..I mean, think about it...voodoo.

>What would have been an appropriate way of dealing with his
>feelings in your opinion?

Well, the best way, really, would be to admit that he has feelings for Hermione and work them out in a mature, sensible way with her instead of venting his frustration into hatred for Krum..

However, that's probably a little too much "perfect" for a 14 year old boy, so I'd settle at least for a more controlled attitude about it all..

I guess I don't feel that the *extent* of his "feelings" (read: blind hatred) are appropriate, given the situation.  Really, it disturbs me.  I've seen allot of similar situations amongst my friends..and none of them got quite so -- vicious about it as Ron did..

>I'd rather have someone vent their feelings in this way than
>actually going and hurting the real person.

Again, given the circumstances, an emotionally stable person wouldn't even *want* to hurt the actual person.  Honestly, Ron's reaction to the whole Herm/Vicky thing was waaaaay over the top.

I mean, I can't believe that you would suggest Ron might actually go *hurt* Krum over something like this -- if he didn't get to rip the arms off a mini-Krum..that takes Ron's mental state to a whole new level of derangededness (not a word, I know..don't mind me) for me. ick.

I mean, imagine Ron..up in the dormitory all alone..slowly ripping the arms off the little Krum figure, watching its face while its limb was pulled from its socket...*shivers*   

>Or do you think Ron should not feel jealous at all?
>Swallow it all down and pretend he's perfectly alright with
>everything?


Nope.  Not at all.  Of course, I could say that the appropriate reaction would be to go talk to Hermione about his feelings for her...but, again -- not very in character of him, really.

It's really the extent of his anger that bothers me.  Ever read Othello?  Actually, let's take it's movie counterpart "O" as the example -- as I can't really remember the details of the play (just watched the movie a month ago or something like that)...

It's like..Odin (Othello) got so incredibly unhinged..there was NO EXCUSE...really, I blame him just as much as Hugo (Iago)...More so, actually.  And it scares me to think that Ron has something similar to that kind of -- rage..inside of him.

Again, why *should* he be so *angry* about it all?  It just doesn't add up...Yes, he's confused about his feelings for Herm -- I can see how he might be irritable and snippish with her -- while unfair, it would be very teenage boyish of him.  But why is he so *angry* at her -- and Krum too...Krum didn't even *do* anything to him. 

>It seems, no matter what Ron does, it gets somehow turned
>against him :}

Well, I think that happens to all the characters to an extent...every little thing they do is picked apart here until, perhaps, the fact that it was just some little random action is totally lost in the search for *meaning*.


>To me he seems perfectly likeable, despite his faults, just
>like Hermione and Harry (though he has too few faults for me
>to see him as real, unless his emotions get completely out
>of control in a future book).

I DO like Ron...I *swear* I do.

However, sometimes he does things, esp. lately, that upset me...make me wonder if the all his "issues" that surfaced in GoF are completely resolved -- at least to the point where they won't get the trio in trouble in the next few books.

For the most part, however..I *like* that is advice is mostly always skewed and that his temper often gets the better of him...it's *him*...

laura


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