Dumbledore does not HAVE to die.

[bluesqueak]

No: HPFGUIDX 39403

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "prefectmarcus" <prefectmarcus at y...> wrote:

> 
> In order to be the most heroic, Harry does have to face Voldemort 
> alone without Dumbledore, but the big D doesn't have to be dead for 
> that to happen.  Harry has always managed to face Voldemort without 
> Dumbledore up to now.  Dumbledore was even "gotten rid of" 
completely 
> in CoS, if you recall.

::Ahem::

Arguing against  'Harry already manages without Dumbledore'. 
Dumbledore is trying to wean Harry from expecting his help, but Harry 
still isn't quite old enough/powerful enough.

In PS/SS Harry gets Dumbledore himself in a 'nick of time' rescue.

In CoS Harry gets less help - but he gets Fawkes and the Sorting hat. 
You think Dumbledore didn't send them? They both come from his office.

In PoA he gets...well. If you're trying to wean a boy off expecting a 
miraculous helping hand, them someone he would much rather do without 
is a pretty good choice. 

I'm going to discuss 'Snape the Spy and the Shrieking Shack' in what 
is currently becoming a (very)long post later tonight or tomorrow, 
but I will comment that Snape's whole behaviour towards Harry in the 
Shack is heavily orientated to getting a 'Get lost, I can do this on 
my own!' response out of the boy. (The major concussion and possible 
skull fracture was admittedly unlikely to have been the precise 
response Snape was aiming for. But then, it was an accident.)

It's in GoF Harry has to manage on his own, aided only by the 'twin 
core' nature of the wands. And does manage - but we find out later 
that Dumbledore knows all about the Priori Incantatem Effect.

 However he still needs protection afterwards from Fake!Moody. (The 
real suggestion that Dumbledore was completely fooled by Fake!Moody 
and his post-Voldemort kidnap is that here there doesn't seem to have 
been any advance planning - just 'grab your trusted allies, kick the 
door down and fight'.)

> 
> We have the seeds of the MoM stepping in and removing Dumbledore 
> already at the end of GoF.  Why do we need to kill him?
> 

Because it's more fun that way? :-)

Pip
(who is beginning to suspect Dumbledore's death is an essential part 
of his plan, but then she suspects everybody anyway.)