More about Ron, was Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Hurt-Comfort and reader crushes

[Laura Ingalls Huntley]

No: HPFGUIDX 39520

Ahh..well..this was all ages ago...but I still feel like replying *shrugs* so sue me...I need to procrastinate about packing -- they're kicking us out of the dorms for the summer...I don't want to go back.  They need to have some sort of like -- refuge here during the summer...


>I don't see it as blind hatred.  More like a jealous >rage.  Temporary insanity, if you will.

Did you know that men used to be able to relatively "get off" for killing their wives if they were in a "jealous rage" at the time -- presumably because this rage (at finding the wife in bed with someone else) rendered them temporarily insane.  I'm not sure if this is the case anymore -- but it does seem a little..backwards, doesn't it?

My point is, I don't trust/like/feel safe around people who *can* go into a jealous rage.  And this temporary insanity shtick -- pfft.  Yes, I did say "pfft".  In certain extreme cases, maybe.  But because of jealously? Pfft.  That doesn't earn any brownie points in my book.  

People ought to have more control -- otherwise they are a danger to themselves and the people around them.  It's only *right* that one must exercise a certain measure of control over oneself.


>Why do you think it was slowly?  Having been a 
>fourteen-year-old boy, I don't remember anything being 
>slow at that age.  

I disagree -- at least in my experience ^_^.  *is good at disagreeing*

>Emotions come swift, and furious.

Um..if you say so.

>I imagine he got up to his room, after the fight with Hermione, and saw his Krum figure.  He remembered >Hermione's quip about "Who's got a model of him up in their dormitory?" GoF23.  He did what any jealous, >hormone-raging, just-got-out-of-a-fight fourteen-year-old boy would do, he smashed it in one quick blow (or >threw it against the wall), scattering pieces all over the room (including under Harry's bed).

Where does he get off getting jealous, anyway?  I mean...even for him, his feelings for Hermione must seem a little -- abrupt, you know?  Anyway, that may have been the case, but it also could have happened a *number* of different ways...my version was the way *I* envisioned it...It's probably pretty useless to try to argue either way on the sequence of events...

>If Ron was in college, I'd agree that his actions were disturbing.  But he's not.  He's a fourteen-year-old
>(read volitile, unpredictable, moody...) adolescent.  Hardly the image of mental stability.

Hormones can go a long way towards explaining alot of things, it's true.  However, there is no excuse for the kind of  violent emotion you seem to be indicating here..

What I've found is this: the good guys do get a little testy during puberty, it's true.  But the ones who are prone to "rages" are likely to *always* be prone to rages.  

Of course, you seem to explaining this entirely different than I initially proposed...actually, now that I think about it, your version seems worse.  The kind of person who gets so upset during/after a fight that he needs to smash things is just the kind of person, IMO, who is likely to hit you when the fight gets really heated...I don't see Ron at this stage yet..but since you mentioned it..I can definitely see the potential..


>The tone of this, on re-reading, is much harsher than 
>intended.  Please do not take offense.  I just really 
>had no trouble seeing this scene play out.

I actually didn't pick up on the harshness...so I guess I don't take offense.

>ish (who really hopes Laura might still talk to him after this)

Oh, but do you really want to chance talking to *me*.

laura (who has just seen a spectacular set of short plays put on by the Drama May Term kids and is still sporadically shivering with delight..)

P.S. my dormmates are *wonderful*.


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