13 at Dinner

[errolowl]

No: HPFGUIDX 39542

arcum42 wrote:
> one scene in PoA that has been bothering me is on Christmas day, 
when they sit at the common table for dinner. Trelawney makes a big 
deal about how unlucky it is for 13 people to dine together. 
Traditionally, the 
> number 13 being unlucky dates to the last supper, and when we are 
> dealing with a scene on Christmas day, I have to wonder if a 
betrayal
> coming from one of the people at the table is being foreshadowed 
> here.
> 
> OTOH, it just occurred to me that Hermione betrays Harry about the 
> Firebolt on the next page, so it may not be that major. Still, that 
> seems minor for an analogy to Judas, so for reference, the people 
> at the table were: Dumbledore, McGonagall, Snape, Sprout, Flitwick, 
> Filch, Trelawney, Harry, Ron, Hermione, 2 extremely nervous first 
> year students (one of whom is named Derek), and a sullen-faced 
> Slytherin fifth year student.
> 
> Lupin is conspicuously absent, as is noted at the time...


As is HAGRID!! Now, that makes me wonder...he's certainly around at 
Hogwarts for Christmas. why would he miss Christmas dinner?

I don't know if the consequence of that 13 at dinner signifies 
betrayal. According to Trelawney, the one who rises first is going to 
die. Here the confusion as to whether Ron or Harry was the first to 
rise could possibly foreshadow a confusion/ mistaken identity 
scenario later on (at the climax?) as to who gets killed....you could 
still have the betrayal: Ron accidentally betrays Harry, realizes his 
mistake and dies in Harry's place....Ummm, or it could be vice 
versa!! Why should Harry be the Hero? (Just Kidding!)

Errol, (Who realizes that there are numerous juicy theories out on 
TBAY, but is too muddled about the threads to specifically refer to 
them)