[HPforGrownups] Harry and the riddle of Riddle/Apparate or Die Trying

[Edblanning at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 39600

Lysa quotes me:
> 
> > That would be entirely consistent with Dobby's method of communicating. 
> Yes, 
> >  the connection should be on his father's side. I am convinced he cannot 
> be 
> >  Voldemort's grandson, as that directly contradicts what Dumbledore says 
> > about 
> >  Voldemort being Slytherin's last remaining descendent. Assuming that he 
> >  knows. After all, he isn't *really* omniscient. How can he possibly know?
> >  
> 
>   Ah, but what about the sorting hat wanting to put Harry into Slytherin, 
> saying,"Its all right here in your head..." or words to that effect.  Where 
> did it come from?  I am not sure about the Voldie as Harry's grampa, but 
> there has to be special signifigance, a special connection somehow.  I am 
> not 
> sure that Riddle is old enough to be harry's grandfather, but uncle 
> perhaps.  
> I am definately anxious to find out!
> 

It came partly from the connection made between Harry and Voldemort as a 
result of the failed curse and partly from the fact that the talents that it 
recognised could be those of either a Slytherin or a Gryffindor (the Hat was 
having difficulty deciding). The choice of what to do with those talents is 
critical and the Sorting Hat recognised the choice that Harry made as 
indicative of where he truly belonged.
The Hat says that he could be great and that Slytherin could help him to 
greatness and then the second time he tries it on, it simply says that he 
would have done well in Slytherin. It is only *Harry* who interprets this 
negatively.
What did it say to Dumbledore? Slytherin could have helped him to a different 
kind of greatness, too, couldn't it?
....................

>But we do see Arthur Weasley apparating into his house.  "Before any of them 
>could say anything else, there was a faint popping noise, and Mr. Weasley >
appeared out of thin air at George's shoulder." (GoF 52)

>So it must therefore be possible to apparate into a house since everyone was 
in the >kitchen at the time. I think even Harry would have noticed had Arthur 
walked into >the room from outside rather than just apparating in. 

>I am not sure where this leaves us but that is the can(n)on behind 
apparation. >Please forgive me if I stepped on any toes.

I don't think this is a problem at all, if we assume that *residents* of a 
house are not covered by an anti-apparition charm. It's only like having a 
door key but not giving a copy to everyone else.

Elkins (who thinks that Avery probably took the train):

>You know what does sometimes trouble my sleep though?  Wondering how 
>all of those Death Eaters actually got *home* from the graveyard.  I
>do worry about that sometimes.  After all, how well can you apparate 
>if you don't even know where you *are?*  And it's hard to imagine a 
>more awkward circumstance under which one could get oneself 
>splinched, isn't it?   

What I'm curious about is just how they get *to* the graveyard (or wherever 
Voldemort is) without knowing where they're going. OK, I suppose in the case 
of apparating to Voldemort's side, the Dark Mark may act as a kind of homing 
device, but can you apparate to a place you don't know? Do you have to have 
some special co-ordinates or a person or object to focus on (but not *too* 
closely, in case you land on them)? How did the older Weasleys manage to 
apparate to exactly the right place at the QWC? How can lots of people 
apparate to the same place without lots of accidents?

Another point it raises is that to be a DE, you *have* to be able to 
apparate, something that requires a lot of magical skill. We're not always 
too kind about the DEs' abilities, are we? Can you imagine Crabbe or Goyle 
apparating? Perhaps there's hope for them as apparently their dads can.

Eloise





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