[HPforGrownups] Re: Voldemort's Resurrection WAS The Spying Game and the Shrieking Shack

[Amanda Geist]

No: HPFGUIDX 39760

Grey Wolf said:

> My/Pip's theory believes that Dumbledore has been controlling the way
> the things should be going, not the timetable they should follow. Of
> course Dumbledore would have prefered waiting another 10 years before
> Harry had to join the fight, but Voldemort made his move much sooner,
> and Dumbledore had to put his plans into motion (in fact, everything
> started to move when Dumbledore took out the stone from the vault.
> Before that, everything was a stalemate).

No, Dumbledore's removal of the stone from its vault was a precautionary
measure. Everything was a stalemate before Quirrell took his little research
trip and met Voldemort and got himself possessed (unless you think
Dumbledore engineered *that* too? Sending someone to be possessed? I can't
buy that). Quirrell was on his way to get the stone, which is presumably why
Dumbledore moved it out of harm's way. Quirrell would have succeeded--the
vault was broken into. Dumbledore's removal of the stone did *not* start the
sequence of events; Quirrell's possession, giving Voldemort a chance to make
a move, did.

Which raises an interesting question (and I'm sorry if you have dealt with
it; I haven't been able to follow threads in depth for some months. But I
don't recall any discussion on it). How did Dumbledore know to move the
stone? How did he know it was in peril at Gringotts? If he suspected
Quirrell, he would not have included Quirrell in the stone's defenses. If he
didn't suspect him, what exactly set off his alarms? Was *this* Trelawney's
first prediction, instead of something having to do with Harry at all?

And, by the way, to answer an earlier question unrelated to this thread, I
do not think the Stone was in the mirror when the mirror was out where Harry
found it. I think the Stone was at the end of the obstacle course, protected
somehow or other, and that it was after Dumbledore talked with Harry and
moved the mirror that he (Dumbledore) had his stroke of brilliance and put
the Stone into it. Otherwise there would have been no reason to have the
very dangerous Fluffy in the school, or the whole obstacle course set up at
all.

--Amanda, very wordy today, clearly ignoring the need to file and work on
taxes