[HPforGrownups] Diary! vs. Vapor!Voldemort (WAS Voldemort's Resurrection)

[N Fry]

No: HPFGUIDX 39831

Pip said:
>I don't know how connected the diary was to Voldemort himself. It could 
>have been a means of communication between Lucius and Voldemort

Marina said:
>I still think the events of CoS were planned by Diary!Voldemort, not
>Vapor!Voldemort,

I have to agree with Marina. I unfortunately don't have my books here with 
me, so I can't quote specific passages. If I correctly remember Riddle's 
explanation to Harry about how he used Ginny, he says that he was *very* 
interested in everything she had to say about Harry, especially dealing with 
Voldemort's downfall. I had always assumed that was because Diary!V had no 
knowledge of this. IIRC, Dumbledore speculates that 16 yr old Tom must have 
captured an impression (shadow? memory? What would you call that thing?) of 
himself in the diary. I took this to mean that Diary!V had all the 
knowledge, memories, etc. of Tom *up to that point in time*, but that he 
doesn't have any connection to Voldemort after he is stored in the diary.

Because of my assumption, I always considered Diary!V's interest in Ginny's 
information to be due to the fact that this is all new information to him. 
Although, I must admit that now that I'm thinking about it enough to put it 
in writing, I guess that Diary!V could have still had contact with Vapor!V, 
so his conversations with Ginny could have been an attempt to gather info 
about how Harry survived the attack. It isn't until they are in the Chamber 
that Harry talks about the Mother Love Theory.

(A bit OT - Diary!Voldemort obviously didn't read Grey Wolf's 
recommendations to check out the Evil Overlords website. If he had, he would 
have known to kill Harry right away instead of explaining his whole plan and 
then calling the snake to do the dirty work. <g>)

Speaking of preserving images of one's self... After all the speculations of 
Dumbledore's possible death, I wonder if he could create something similar 
to the diary. I know some people have suggested that the pensieve could be 
used to assist Harry if something happened to Dumbledore, but I got the 
impression that they were only referring to his memories and not to an 
actual preserved version of himself.


~ Nik  (who is imagining a confrontation between Diary!Voldemort and 
Pensieve!Dumbledore and wishing that she had her books here at work so she 
could look up more specific support than "I think I remember one of the 
characters saying...")

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