Lethal Harry

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 40017


> Manda wrote:
> > That reminds me.. Was Harry actually capable of killing Sirius at 
> > that time? He hadn't been introduced to Avada Kedavra yet. I 
guess he 
> > could have used Wingardium Leviosa to hit him over the head with
> > something heavy or set fire to Sirius' robes, but how much damage 
> > could he have really done?
> > 
> > Manda
> > finally coming up with something intelligent enough to post :-)
> 


And Da Grey Wolf wrote:

> Harry has not been taught AK, nor he will ever be in Hogwarts, 
since 
> its use in humans is forbidden. How would he kill Sirius, then? The 
> question has been put up before, and there are many answers. Some 
> believe that Harry was just bluffing (to himself), and he couldn't 
do 
> magic to kill Sirius. He may have tried to strangulate him, but he 
> couldn't use *magic*. 
> 
> Others (me included) believe that intelligent use of the spells he 
> already knows could have had the desired state (then again, 
> "intelligent" use of a chair will also kill someone. Or really, any 
> other object with the possible exception of goldfish). 
> 
> How? Well, "accio heart" is gruesome, but if it can be done, can be 
> very effective. Or you can Expelliarmus/Wingadium Leviosa his 
clothes, 
> effectively throwing him around the room until he's knocked out. Or 
> burn his clothes. Or engorgio his throat/tongue (those sweets the 
twins 
> create are VERY dangerous) until he dies from lack of air. Or... 
should 
> I continue? (I can probably can find a way to use any spell to have 
> dangerous consecuences to a human being, but not all of them could 
be 
> applied to the shack scene)
> 
 

And I wrote:

The first thing that came to my mind was that handy little binding 
spell around someone's throat. (Cue Darth Vader: "I find your lack of 
faith disturbing.")

All your ideas are really good, but the one problem I see with them 
(and my binding throat for that matter) is that they do not kill 
quickly. Remember, Harry was not alone in the room. 

Lupin probably would have stopped him had Harry done something that 
took any longer than a second. Hermione might have even stopped him, 
reasoning that Harry might hate her forever for it, but at least he 
wouldn't be a murderer. 

ON THE OTHER HAND... we know that Harry has sometimes done powerful 
things without realizing it. 

He has:

Essentially apparated to the top of his school roof when bullies were 
chasing him. Remember, apparation is so tricky a spell that Hogwarts 
students aren't allowed to practice it until after graduation, and 
then only with a license. SS/PS

Caused a human being to inflate -- like the expanding tongue, another 
seemingly amusing spell that could be dangerous. PoA

Made thick glass disappear completely (freeing the snake in the zoo) 
SS/PS

And he did these all when he was scared or angry.

Is it possible that Harry could have spontaneously used AK, simply 
because he wanted to? 

Darrin
-- If I could spontaneously make things vanish -- Goodbye, credit 
card company!