Symbols Next the Characters Names - Harry's Middle Name - the Evans sisters - Nitwit etc - Homoeroticism
rosie
crana at ntlworld.com
Thu Jun 20 09:09:05 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 40094
Rowen said:
"It seems kind of silly to me for JKR to waste space on that little
piece of paper indicating if they were a boy or girl. You probably
could tell that from the name, methinks."
Would have been useful for Professor Sinistra!
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Random monkey said:
"Incidentally, does anyone know if Harry has a middle name?"
I'm pretty sure it says somewhere his middle name is James, after his dad. Ooh - I've just noticed something: Lily and Petunia, both flowers.. ok, that's not very significant.
And I don't know if it has been discussed.. but is it significant that Crookshanks has bandy legs? (mentioned more than once in PoA I think).. because his name reflects that too.. Crook as in crooked (or ill, if you're Australian).. and Shanks means legs... Hm!
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Random monkey said:
"Even more intriguing: Would Priori Incantem come out? If so, how?
Shadows of shadows? Then again, weren't some of the spells not spit
out (ex. Harry's AK)?"
I think they didn't come out because Harry broke the golden cage-thing before they could. I think it says somewhere that if he had let it go on long enough it would have spat out all the dead Muggles, etc, etc.
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Brin:
"Hey all. I actually managed to think of something that nobody's
posted before as far as I know: it just occurred to me that Nitwit,
Blubber, Oddment and Tweak are either secret nicknames of the
founders, or - get this - the Marauders of Dumbledore's youth, him
being one! Would anyone like to comment on that?"
I just thought they were random words that sounded interesting... I suppose your theory is possible.. although I am not sure why Dumbledore would say them? Do you have any ideas on that?
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Rochelle said:
"From the "easily ignored" category, we have the thing that Harry would
"sorely miss" [p.463] which, of course, turned out to be Ron [p.498]
Granted, this is innocent enough; Harry IS ron's closest friend. But
especially when given the fact that two of the other three competitors
had to rescue their girlfriends/dance dates (Krum had to save Hermione;
Cedric had to save Cho), the homoerotic subtext here isn't that hard to
find."
Well.. Harry doesn't have a girlfriend, and I can't see him missing Parvatti above anyone else.. He can't have Hermione as a hostage, since she is being rescued by Krum, and even though he fancies Cho, she is also already being rescued by someone else. I think it is to show how important friendship is (remember, Harry thought it would be his broomstick, and he learnt more about the value of friendship through this.. and remember when Hermione is trying to convince Harry and Ron to talk to each other again? "He misses you... and I know you miss him" or something along those lines). Harry and Ron are best mates, yes Hermione is an essential part of the trio, but as Harry says somewhere, she just isn't as fun to be with as Ron. Maybe I'm missing it, but I think the subtext is friendship, not homoeroticism.
and
"3)Tom Riddle's "hungry eyes" in CoS [p.309, 311]. Okay, so maybe
looking at someone "hungrily" means something completely different in
England than it usually does in the States (though I doubt it). And
yes, if you try, you can just brush it off. But nonetheless, we've got
some pretty blatant homoerotic subtext going on."
Aren't his eyes "hungry" because he is longing to have Harry dead? Yes, you can say "hungry eyes" in that sense in England, but it means longing greatly for *anything*, not just one particular thing.
")CoS, pages 285-286 where Percy goes to great lengths to keep Ginny
from telling anyone what she caught him doing. All right, so it turns
out that he was kissing his new girlfriend [p.341]. But up until that
gets revealed, you know very well what you THOUGHT he was doing! ;) "
I thought he was doing something connected with the CoS - what did you think he was doing? :S
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Rosie
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