Fourth Man Seventh Son with Imperius (was: Re: Which Weasley Is Ever So Evil)

[Edblanning at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 40184

Cindy:

> Oh, dear.  David, are you *sure* you want to ask that?  Are you 
> *certain?*  Because I *know* who these 33 people voted for.  Someone 
> so Evil, so Awful, so Heinous, that it becomes hard for me even to 
> utter the name.  
> 
> So I won't.  Not until farther down in this post, anyway.  ;-)
> 
> Elkins observed:
> 
> > So is there any evidence in the text that Bill and/or Charlie are 
> >hip to something about their father and his relationship to the 
> >past, something that the younger children in the family do not know 
> >about?
> > 
> > I think that there is.  
> > 
> > At the end of _GoF,_ in Chapter 36, when Dumbledore announces his 
> > intention of sending a letter to Arthur to enlist his help in 
> > convincing other Ministry officials of the truth of Voldemort's 
> > return, Bill immediately volunteers to go to him in person.
> > 
> > "'I'll go to Dad,' said Bill, standing up.  'I'll go now.'"
> 
> Uh, oh.
> 
> Elkins got me thinking here, and no good can ever come from that.  
> Let's consider her evidence about which Weasley may have been placed 
> under the Imperius Curse when Voldemort first came to power.  
> 
> Elkins:
> 
> 
> > It's touching, that, but it is also really very suggestive.  Why 
> > precisely *is* Bill so concerned about Arthur's feelings when it 
> > comes to this topic?
> > 
> > I think that Arthur was an Imperius victim, and that Bill knows it.
> 
> Well, maybe.  Maybe.  But don't you think it is *far* more likely 
> that *Bill* was an Imperius Victim during Voldemort's first campaign?
> 
> 

OK, how about another twist.
I've had this one on the back burner for some time, because even for a 
seasoned hedgehog-hunter it does seem a little far-fetched.  It does, 
however, have the advantage of tying up several strands into one neat package.

Many people have tried to make Ron a seventh son, by proposing that there is 
a missing (presumably dead) Weasley son. Most people, seeing a gap, like to 
place him between Charlie and Percy, but I'd like to propose that he was 
actually their *first-born*. Now, according to the Lexicon, there's only a 
five-year age gap between Charlie and Snape and the Marauders, so say three 
years for Bill, so the eldest could be either contemporary with them, or a 
year younger.

Now, Cindy, you won't like this, because it challenges the identity of your 
boy Avery,  but what if this eldest brother was in fact the notorious Fourth 
Man?

*There* would be a huge Bangy Weasley secret. And of course, Bill and Charlie 
would probably know about it. But the younger ones wouldn't. They'd be 
protected. Ron *would* think he was only the sixth to go to Hogwarts because 
he doesn't know he has/had another brother.

What's that, Fourth Man doesn't have red hair, you say? Well, JKR, who seems 
fair obsessed with red hair doesn't mention it, it's true. But then if you 
were so easily identifiable by a physical characteristic, wouldn't you do 
something about your appearance?

And why doesn't everyone know, you ask? Look, no-one at that school knows 
*anything* relevant to the last Voldemort war, do they? They're all in a 
terrible state of ignorance. Ron doesn't even know what the Dark Mark is and 
even if his parents were protecting him, you'd think he'd have picked it up 
at school if it was common knowledge.

So who was under Imperius? Eldest son (who either died in Azkaban, or is 
exiled somewhere to protect the family name)? Or Arthur, who was Imperio'd by 
said eldest son.

Oh, and for those who like such things...... do we *know* that Avery is a 
surname? Avery, Bill, Charlie......

So there you have it, the Fourth Man Seventh Son with Imperius combo. So 
wildly improbable it has to be true.
Or not.

Eloise



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