[HPforGrownups] Re: The Voldemort-Potter Connection/ Hermione lies/Q for Hagrid disapprovers/ HP Tarot/games

[Richelle Votaw]

No: HPFGUIDX 40352

Draco382 says:

> wow...so I guess this introduces a new Fatherly!Voldemort to the
>discussion!  This is a very interesting new theory.  But I have one
>question...does this mean that Lily is an orphan that was taken in
>by Petunia and her folks?  But that doesn't explain why Petunia
>doesn't have any pictures of Harry's Family anywhere.  I mean, they
>would after all, be just a muggle family, right?  Unless, Voldemort
>killed them all systematically, after Lily joined the crew.  Maybe
>I'm just confused, but I'd love to hear more about this.

Right, one would think Harry's family were ordinary muggles.  Except for the
comment that he had never seen pictures of his family.  Any of his family.
Not his mother--who was his aunt's sister, who he's lived with for ten
years!  Or apparently her parents either.  I'm getting this from the passage
at the mirror of Erised in Sorcerer's Stone Scholastic paperback edition
page 209:

    And slowly, Harry looked into the faces of the other people in the
mirror, and saw other pairs
    of green eyes like his, other noses like his, even a little old man who
looked as though he had
    Harry's knobbly knees--Harry was looking at his family, for the first
time in his life.

Now one could assume he's seeing the Potter side, except for those green
eyes, which as we all well know by now come from his mother.

Kyli writes:

>But, what if Lily was related to Dumbledore? In CoS (US paperback
>ed. page 245) it states that D had auburn hair. And it states in SS/PS
>(US ed. page 208) that Lily also has dark red hair. Of course, this
>could just be a coincidence. But what if? That would certainly explain
>why D was close to and "good friends" (correct me if I'm wrong, but I
>believe that's stated somewhere in one of the books) with James and
>Lily Potter.

It is stated in Book one by Hagrid that " . . . the myst'ry is why
You-Know-Who never tried to get 'em (James and Lily) on his side before . .
. probably knew they were too close ter Dumbledore ter want anythin' to do
with the Dark Side." (US paperback edtion SS/PS page 55)

However, my theory also has Harry related to Dumbledore--but through James
Potter, not Lily.  Yes, I've got lots of theories. :)

Ryoko Blue writes:

> I would go with the fact that Dumbledore could be Lily's father, not
> Voldemort, for one Dumbledore said in CoS that Voldemort was the last heir
> of Slytherin.  So that rules Harry out, but it very well could be
Dumbledore
> is related to Lily,  which could also mean Harry is realted to the
Weasleys
> (which I hope for ship reasons), I don't think if hair color is a thing to
> go on.  But it is good to speculate ^_^

Well I'm still sticking to those green eyes coming from something to do with
Slytherin.  Dumbledore has blue eyes, right?  Anyway, if Dumbledore didn't
know Tom Riddle had a son, he would assume that Voldemort/Riddle was the
last heir of Slytherin.  But the way my figures come out Tom Riddle was
somewhere between 40 and 45 when he "went bad."  Can't tell me he didn't
have a kid someplace in all that time!  But by the end of GoF Dumbledore was
suspecting there was something more than meets the eye there, thus the gleam
in his eye after the blood incident (only assuming he wanted Harry's blood
for foe/blood relation which I'll admit is a pretty wild assumption, but you
never know).

Dave writes:

>In an unrelated topic, it's been bothering me for quite a while as to why
Hermione lied to >Professor McGonagall about why she was in the bathroom in
the troll incident in PS/SS.  I read >a very old post here, in which someone
said that she was saving Harry and Ron from getting in >trouble, since it
was their fault that she was in there crying in the first place.  I agree,
that's true, >but do you think Harry and Ron would have been held
responsible for that by the teachers >present?  In the long run, isn't doing
a bad thing and then making up for it by going out of their >way to save her
life much more noble than than just sensing she was in trouble and going to
>save her?

The only way I can see as to why she took responsibility is because she's
considered by the teachers and others to be more responsible and less likely
to get into mischief.  Harry and Ron (or at least Harry--can't quite
remember) had already lots points for Gryffindor and maybe she didn't want
everyone mad at them, so she thought she'd lose some points herself.

Zoe writes:

>I have a question that I'd like to put those of you who disapprove of
>Hagrid. It's clear to me, a self-confessed Hagrid lover, that JKR loves
>Hagrid and clearly meant for him to be a sympathetic character and one of
>the good guys.  Do you believe that she believes Hagrid to be a dismal
>failure whose character flaws are so great that he is destined to cause
>Harry and/or Dumbledore great harm? Or do you believe that JKR meant to
>write a good guy, but failed miserably?

Well, I don't disapprove of Hagrid, but I'll share my theory anyway (since
as I said before I have many theories).  I think that JKR is writing him to
be a loveable (at least by children) character whose bumbling mistakes often
get him into trouble.  But who is loyal to Dumbledore and may make life
threatening mistakes but will risk (possibly sacrifice) his life to correct
them/defend Dumbledore/Harry.

Eric writes:

>I have a friend who is a serious Tarot-card collector.  I asked her if
there
>was any such thing as a Harry Potter Tarot, since she would know.  (She
>deals in tarot decks to other collectors, among other things.)  She said
>that such a thing had been brought up to JKRowling's people by the biggest

Hmm, that's interesting. Anybody know if a Harry Potter monopoly is planned?
I collect Monopoly games (well, I collect almost everything).

Now if you have manged to read to the end of this, congratulations.  I think
I've got the combining post thing down pat. :)

Richelle