Confundus; Hermione's lying; Tarot
porphyria_ash
porphyria at mindspring.com
Wed Jun 26 02:02:51 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 40361
Alexander asked:
> I have re-read PoA, and now a question appeared: in the
> Shrieking Shack, Lupin tells the story of the Marauders to
> HRH and invisible Snape. He also mentions that three of
> Marauders were animagi. Snape hears the whole story.
>
> Yet in the GoF, ministry seems to be unaware of the fact
> that Sirius is an animagus. Surely Snape would squeal on
> Sirius if he was given a chance? If he didn't, then why?
My interpretation of this, Magic Dishwashers aside, is that Snape
honesty thought he was witnessing a Confundus-in-progress in the
Shack and he figured the entire animagus account was a cock-and-bull
story. He doesn't believe that Sirius is a large animal any more than
he believes Peter is a rat.
If Dumbledore later convinced him that this was all true then he
would have also convinced him that Sirius was innocent, so once Snape
believed everything he wouldn't have chosen to mention it to the
Ministry. Snape is bad, but not that bad; I don't think he'd inform
on an innocent man no matter how much he personally hated him.
However, given Snape's evident surprise at Sirius' presence at the
end of GoF, perhaps he was never made to believe the animagus account
and didn't accept it until that moment.
We haven't actually seen someone cast a Confundus charm. It's
possible that it requires a *fake* story to take the place of the
real one, like a smokescreen. When Crouch Jr. disguised as Moody
brags about how the Goblet of Fire must have been confunded he
says: "It would have needed an exceptionally strong Confundus Charm
to bamboozle that goblet into forgetting that only three schools
compete in the tournament...I'm guessing they submitted Potter's name
under a fourth school, to make sure he was the only one in his
category." I take this to mean that the Goblet wasn't just coaxed
into forgetting how many schools there were, but was told that the
number of schools was actually four. Well, I guess you can interpret
it either way, but I don't think it rules out that one way to do a
Confundus charms is to tell a false story to replace the true one. If
so, this would jive with what Snape belived he witnessed in the Shack.
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Dave Haber asked:
> In an unrelated topic, it's been bothering me for quite a
> while as to why Hermione lied to Professor McGonagall about
> why she was in the bathroom in the troll incident in PS/SS.
> I read a very old post here, in which someone said that she
> was saving Harry and Ron from getting in trouble, since it
> was their fault that she was in there crying in the first
> place.
This bothers me too, I think the exact way she goes about lying to
McGonagall is FLINTY. It would have made just as much sense if she
told the truth and just said that she'd been hiding in there crying
her eyes out. She wouldn't have had to mention why. My best guess is
that she was simply trying to draw McGonagall's fire upon herself. In
other words, McGonagall was about to get *really* angry and she was
fixin' to punish someone, so by "admitting" that she was out to kill
the troll herself, Hermione made herself sound as guilty and foolish
as possible and made the boys look relatively heroic in comparison,
thus distracting McGonagall from punishing them.
Of course the overall answer is that she is grateful for them for
saving her life and she wants them to see how much she really admires
them and wants to be their friend. By deliberately sacrificing
herself she gets the point across that she values them more than she
values her good reputation with the teachers.
This would be the second case of a woman drawing fire upon herself to
protect Harry.
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Eric wrote:
> I can think of a lot of things that would go well in a
> HP Tarot, though...let me see...Major Arcana...
> Harry Potter (natch!) as the Magician
> Hagrid as the Hermit
> Voldemort as Death
> Cedric and Cho (or Arthur and Molly Weasley, or Harry's
> parents) as the Lovers
> James Potter as Strength
> MoM Cornelius Fudge as the Hierophant
> Professor McGonagall as the Empress
> Dumbledore as the Emperor
As to tarot, I know there is already at least one attempt online:
http://www.qaimlyn.com/padfootmk/tarot.htm
I think this deck does an excellent job with the symbols. The Empress
is really a card symbolizing maternal plenty; I think Molly is a
better choice than the stern McGonagall. The Lovers represents
duality, not perfect accord; thus Hermione and Ron are perfect since
they really do squabble all the time (shipping arguments aside).
Snape, of course, would be the Death card, which represents
transformation. Harry is the Fool, since he's the one who's making
the monumental journey. And Lily is Strength (sniff!).
But yes, there would be lots of ways to interpret an HP Tarot.
~Porphyria
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