Dark Magic Power Boosts, Cruciatus and Imperius (Some TBAY)
cindysphynx
cindysphynx at comcast.net
Wed Jun 26 21:21:01 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 40401
Elkins wrote (about Crouch Jr. perhaps refusing Voldemort's request
for assistance):
> (It does make you wonder, though, doesn't it, what Voldemort would
> have done if Crouch had said "no?" I mean, *was* there a Plan B?)
Plan B? Well, let's see. Crouch Jr. might say something like, "You
know, I've been couped up under this cloak a long time and I was
thinking of maybe taking some time *off*, if that's all right with
you, Voldemort."
Mmm, nah. Not unless Crouch Jr. was hoping to do a dance with the
Cruciatus Curse, figuring it might help clear his mind or
something.
Hey, here's a totally wacky thought, though. Maybe, just maybe, the
Cruciatus Curse makes wizards *more* powerfully magical than they
would otherwise be. That's why Voldemort dispenses these Cruciatus
curses to his own DEs. That's why the DEs tolerate this sort of
abuse. And that's why Avery volunteers for that Cruciatus Curse in
the graveyard. Oh, sure, it will sting a bit at first, but it is
*so* totally worth it, because now Avery is stronger. Avery isn't a
SYCOPHANT; he's an overachiever!
That's the real reason Cruciatus is an Unforgiveable -- it makes the
victim *stronger* in the long haul.
So let's see. Who else gets a taste of Cruciatus? Wormtail and
Cedric. Cedric surely displays some power after Krum hit him with
the Cruciatus Curse -- Cedric almost reaches the Cup first and teams
up with Harry to stun the spider.
The only wizards who received the Cruciatus Curse and didn't get
stronger were Bertha and the Longbottoms. And that's only because
they received *way* too much of it. They *overdosed* on Cruciatus,
that's what happened, poor things.
And then there's Harry. Harry, who received two Cruciatus Curses
and became able to dodge spells, who didn't report that his scar was
hurting after the second Cruciatus Curse despite Voldemort's close
proximity and murderous conduct. In fact, Harry was unable even to
resist being bent forward at the waist after one Cruciatus Curse,
but was able to *throw off Imperius* after the second.
Hey, it's a thought!
Elkins:
> Why *was* Crouch only able to throw off his father's Imperius at
>the QWC, after so many years of being unable to resist it? For
>that matter, why had his ability to resist it started growing
>stronger in the very recent past? In his confession, he says:
>
> "'But Winky didn't know that I was growing stronger. I was
>starting to fight my father's Imperius Curse. There were times
>when I was almost myself again. There were brief periods when I
>seemed outside his control.'"
>
> That's interesting, isn't it? *Why?* Why was he growing
>stronger?
I have an idea. It is certainly reasonable to assume that Crouch
Jr. was growing stronger. Maybe, maybe.
But how about an alternative theory? A theory that explains all of
the pesky, FLINT-y problems with the Imperius Curse? How about if
the Imperius Curse is only as strong as the wizard casting it? How
about if the Imperius Curse is a classic struggle of wills, a clash
of power between the controller and victim.
After all, Mulciber specialized in the Imperius Curse. If all
Imperius Curses are the same, why have someone specialize in it?
The answer, I say, is that everyone knows the Imperius Curse can be
thrown off by powerful wizards. So you don't want any old hack
casting Imperius on wizards; you want to send in your "A" team --
Mulciber, whose Imperius Curses seem to stick.
Oh, *now* we're rolling! If the Imperius Curse is only as strong as
the wizard casting it, then it makes perfect sense for Crouch/Moody
to teach Harry to fight it. Crouch/Moody knows his own Imperius is
*child's play* compared to Voldemort's Imperius, so there's no harm
in teaching Harry to fight it.
It also explains why the DEs in the Graveyard stop laughing it up
when they see Harry throw of Voldemort's curse. This is the first
real hard evidence they've seen that Harry is stronger than
Voldemort. Oh, that Voldemort has a barrel of excuses for his other
defeats, doesn't he? Ancient magic, "Phoenix tears, I forgot!" Not
this time, though. This time, the DEs saw with their own eyes that
Voldemort's Imperius Curse isn't strong enough to control Harry.
And that's important!
As far as Crouch Jr. goes, he didn't really get stronger during all
those years under the cloak, under this theory. Crouch *Sr.* was
getting *weaker*, that's what was going on. Crouch Sr. was getting
more and more discouraged by his failure to win become Minister of
Magic, becoming bitter from being shunted aside and forced to work
with the likes of Ludo Bagman. And Crouch Sr. was just plain
growing older. All of that made young Crouch *relatively* stronger
compared with his father, I think, not stronger overall.
Cindy (who thinks Pip and her MAGIC DISHWASHER will *not* like the
idea that Cruciatus makes a wizard stronger)
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