[HPforGrownups] Re: Cruciatus and Imperius (Some TBAY), Dark Magic Power Boosts

[Richelle Votaw]

No: HPFGUIDX 40519

Abigail writes:

>Dumbledore clearly states in CoS that attributes of Voldemort's attached
>themselves to Harry when the Avada Kedavra failed.  What if a similar
>connection to the one that has been suggested between Voldemort and
>the DEs now exists between Voldemort and Harry?  It explains why Harry
>is able to throw off a relatively benevolent suggestion in class by Crouch
Jr.,
>and later, when Voldemort himself Imperiuses him, it's actually Voldemort's
>strengh (either magical strengh or strengh of will, I think a good case can
>be made for either of these, or both, affecting the quality of a wizard's
>Imperius) fighting itself, which is why Harry manages to throw the Imperius
>off - all he needs is to tip the scales a bit.

Well whether it's Voldemort's strength fighting itself or not, Harry had
been taught (by Crouch Jr) to throw it off.  It took quite a few tries to
perfect it and a couple of banged up knees.  I'm still not quite sure why
Crouch Jr was so intent that Harry learn to throw it off.  I understood it
fine when I thought he was Moody.  I can only guess that it was a further
way to make him look like the real Moody.  Anyway, in the graveyard Harry
gets an experience with Voldemort's imperius curse first that he can't throw
off.  That's when he bowed to Voldemort before the "duel."  Could it have
been that since he'd experienced one imperius curse from Voldemort that he
was more prepared for the second?  And that's why he could throw it off?

>find a way to overcome the Dragon in the first task.  He tells him to play
>to his strenghs, and Harry immediately thinks that the only thing he's
really
>good at is Quidditch.
>
>That's never made any sense to me.  I know that Harry is both modest and
>friends with Hermione, which could make anyone undervalue their magical
>abilities, but he must have noticed by now that he's no magical slouch.
Why,
>only a few months before he conjured a powerful Patronus, which many adult

I think this (Harry's seeming lack of belief in his magical abilities) may
come from a couple of things.  One, he still may have an inferiority complex
from his childhood where he never had any friends, no one ever told him he
was good at anything, etc.  The other theory I have about that comes from
the movie "The Matrix."  (If you haven't seen it you may totally miss my
point.  Sorry!)  When Neo goes to the the Oracle, she tells him he's not The
One.  Well he is, but she told him what he needed to hear.  She made him
think he wasn't really anything special, yet that is how he became so
powerful.  Perhaps Harry is like this.  He needs to think he's just an
average wizard so that he won't get full of himself, and eventually may
become the greatest wizard of all time (or however you want to think about
it).


Richelle