Hermione WAS percy/molly/hermione

[tanie_05]

No: HPFGUIDX 36008

> Jo Serenadust wrote:
> > Laura Huntley wrote:
> 
> <Major snippage>
> >     Anyway, my point is, there was really no way to contain 
> Crookshanks, while Scabbers would have been better off in Ron's 
room 
> anyway, even if there was no Crookshanks -- what's Ron doing 
lugging 
> a sick rat around anyway?  The poor thing belongs somewhere quiet, 
> dark, and peaceful.
> 
> In chapter 4 of CoS, right after Hermione has bought Crookshanks 
she 
> says to Ron (after he expresses his concern for Scabbers in 
> Crookshanks presence), ..."And stop *worrying, Croookshanks will be 
> sleeping in my dormitory and Scabbers in yours, what's the problem?"
> From this point on, she makes no effort whatsoever to keep 
> Crookshanks from attacking Scabbers and even *carries* him into Ron 
> and Harry's dorm room on Christmas morning (CoS, chapter 11).  
She's 
> being completely thoughtless and irresponsible in this instance.
> I've got 2 cats myself and have always been able to keep them in 
the 
> house, and can confine them to a bedroom when necessary (allergic 
> guests, workmen going in and out of the door, etc).  She's not even 
> trying.

Now, let's get this ball rolling. Hermione hasn't done that good of a 
job keeping her cat in her presence, or better yet, out of Scabbers'. 
She says he'll be in her dorm, but he's never really there all the 
time, is he? He's always roaming the towers, trying to get to 
Scabbers, but yet Hermione doesn't stop him until Scabbers 
was "eaten". Not very good showmanship of responsbility. But then 
too, we must remember Crookshanks is on "our" side. So in essence, it 
wasn't good that Crookshanks was free, but it wound up to be good in 
the end. And that's all that really matters.
 
> Me again:
> 
> > >  Her insensitivity to others can 
> > >be breathtaking at times. Remember her response to the death of 
> > >Lavenders rabbit? She consistently favors being right >over 
being 
> kind.
> 
> Laura again:
> 
> > I'm sorry, but I flat-out disagree with this one.  First of all, 
> > Lavender was being a little...well, silly, at this instance, and, 
> > if 
> > I do recall, Hermione was trying very hard to approach the topic 
> > delicately, while still point out that perhaps Prof. Trelawney 
> > may 
> > not be all-powerful -- which I would like to point out Lavender 
> > *needs* to know.  It's not healthy, the way she and Pavarti view 
> > the 
> > old fraud.  Frankly, I see it as dangerous.  That kind of naivety 
> > and susceptibility to cons can only lead to pain and trouble.  
> > Sometimes it is necessary to be insensitive in order to help 
> > others 
> > in the long run.
> 
> 
> Aha! You *admit* she's insensitive ;--)!
> Who died and left Hermione in charge of telling everyone else how 
to 
> respond to upsetting news?  IIRC she approached Lavender; Lavender 
> didn't request her input/advice.  This is the crux of my problem 
> with Hermione.  She's always convinced she can run everyone else's 
> life better than they can.  It's a good thing Ron and Harry can put 
> up with this and see her good qualities in spite of this, because 
> it's easy to see why she hasn't got any other friends at this point.

I have got to say I think this is the *worst* Hermione moment in all 
the books. She has a very good point, but she chose the wrong time 
and place to say it. You've got to admit if you were Lavender, 
mourning over your poor dead baby rabbit, & Hermione told you (to sum 
it up) that you pretty much had no basis on being upset, wouldn't you 
be atleast the *least* bit peeved? That was very rude to say it right 
then. She should have given Lavender some grieving time, (yes, people 
need grieving time for pets, too) maybe even a week (or maybe longer, 
depends on the person), & *then* it would have been more appropriate. 
OTOH, she made a good point, Binky hadn't died on the 16th, (but why 
not? I mean it shouldn't take an owl that long to get to Hogwarts 
from her house. Well, it depends on where she lives, too.) she just 
got the letter on the 16th. I can see why she said it though. 
(According to my friend, I'm a "Hermione-clone". haha.) She's trying 
to be logical for everyone, to get them to understand that Prof. 
Trelawney isn't a "true Seer". If I were Hermione, I may have told 
them too, but not right then. I can only imagine how she was treated 
later that night in the dorm. I bet there was a whole lot of arguing.

> Laura sums up:
> 
> > *sigh* I was going to list more, but I'm kind of getting sick of 
> > typing...^_~ anyway, of course Hermione isn't perfect, but I 
> > still 
> > think she's a pretty admirable person.
> 
> 
> I don't disagree that Hermione is really a good person at heart.  
> However, she *still* has many of the faults she started out with, 
> and if we're going to find fault with any of the other characters, 
> then she has to take her lumps too.

Oh trust me. She's a good person, but she still has those flaws, much 
like everyone else. So let's just get along & agree to disagree.

-Kyrstyne(the "Herm-clone")