Wizard wear and pockets
alhewison
Ali at zymurgy.org
Thu Mar 7 19:17:24 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 36169
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "adhara_black" <adhara_black at y...> wrote:
> Adhara writes :
> I too have been wondering about how the robes 'work'. Inner
garments,
> outer garments, pockets, etc. for exactly the same reasons.
> In the film, Harry and the other students seem to wear Muggle
clothes
> under their outer 'uniform' robes. A shirt and school tie for
classes
> for example. But they wear casual gear at other times. For example,
> Harry's wearing jeans and a torn red sweater when he confronts
> Quirrell/Voldemort. No sign of robes at all! Since JKR is said to
> have worked closely with Columbus and was very happy with the film,
I
> can't imagine she wouldn't have intervened if the clothing wasn't
the
> way she envisaged it in the books.
>
> Apart from all that, I always assumed that just like in the Muggle
> world, there must be something like witch- and wizard-fashion and
> they don't all wear the same. Certainly in PS/SS, we see
descriptions
> of them wearing different coloured robes in the street on the day
> they celebrate Voldemort's (assumed) defeat. And Fugde's style is
> certainly different.
>
> The use of Muggle clothing is not entirely clear to me. In GoF,
> dressing as a Muggle to go to the Quidditch World Cup seems to be a
> big deal, and from the descriptions it would seem the wizards and
> witches are NOT used to it. On the other hand, they ALL dress as
> Muggles to make their way to King's Cross Station every year, so
they
> don't attract attention.
>
>
>
> Oh well, as Eloise wrote, perhaps it's trivial.
Perhaps it is trivial, but I think that there is an issue re muggle
clothing. In GoF, when Vernon Dursley is wondering what the Weasley's
will be wearing, Harry thinks about how the Weasley children wear
muggle clothing in the school holidays - but the parents wear shabby
robes (sorry I haven't got my rather battered GoF handy).
This seems to me to imply that the kids normally wear robes when
they're at Hogwarts. (Except in the holidays eg at Christmas all the
Weasleys are given, and wear jumpers).
If Harry wore muggle clothing at Hogwarts wouldn't he have got badly
teased because his clothes were so big for him? afterall Ron is
really embarassed over his dress robes, so it's clear that clothes do
matter. Harry was wearing one of Dudley's old sweatshirts at the
beginning of GoF, so he hasn't gone and bought himself a load of new
muggle clothes. He obviously hasn't shrunk all the clothes either
(unless the sweatshirt and jeans had been given to him since he'd
come home for the holidays, and hadn't been able to use magic to
change them).
I suppose that canon is just confusing over the issue, and the film
doesn't really help - Harry suddenly had properly fitting clothes
when he got to Hogwarts, without explanation.
Ali
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