Trelawney's First Prediction
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Mon Mar 11 06:19:57 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 36312
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Stacy Stroud <deadstop at g...> wrote:
> saintbacchus asked, RE Trelawney's first true prediction as bearing
on the Potter/Voldy conflict:
>
> >What I want to know is, how did Voldemort know about a
> >prediction made by a Hogwarts staffer? Spies?
>
>
> Well, we don't know the prediction was actually made during the
last Voldemort War. Perhaps it was Tom Riddle who was witness to
Trelawney's first true prediction, much as Harry witnessed her
second? Trelawney could still have been a teacher at the time, or
she might have been a fellow student. (McGonagall's not much older
than Riddle, and we know Minerva and Sibyll have a bit of animosity
going; perhaps Trelawney is of similar age and went to school with
both McGonagall and Riddle.)
>
> For an added twist, perhaps she used the name "Lord Voldemort" in
the prediction, meaning that Tom was the only one who understood it
at the time (having been using the nickname in secret among his
friends). That could also explain why Dumbledore counts it as a true
prediction even if its fulfillment may still be playing out: the rise
of a Dark Lord named Voldemort has already come to pass, and suggests
that the rest of the prediction (about his fall at the hands of a
Potter or whatever) might also be true.
>
I answered a lot of this in my post #36277<Re:Why did Voldemort want
to kill Harry? + Trelawney>. Pettigrew was a spy for LV and in James
& Lily's inner circle of friends. I suggested the prophecy came at a
Public Event like the Potter's wedding or Harry's christening and of
the Baby Harry causing LV's downfall. Pettigrew informed LV and LV
tried to kill Harry CAUSING his own downfall by trying to stop a
prophecy he should have ignored.
Uncmark
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