[HPforGrownups] Re: Weasleys/Dumbledore's gleam/Knut

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No: HPFGUIDX 36383

In a message dated 12/03/02 04:23:26 GMT Standard Time, elfundeb at aol.com 
writes:


> Well, actually, I think you've got the best answer already -- Weasley 
> may simply be a variation of Wesley, i.e., west field. Why do I think 
> this?  There is a Charlie Wesley (whom I have never met) on a group 
> circulation list at my office, and every time I see it I misread it 
> as Charlie Weasley.  Besides, Ottery St. Catchpole is in the west of 
> England (west of Surrey, anyway).  
> 

Does *no-one* else see the physical resemblance between the tall, thin (well, 
not Molly), red-headed Weasleys and their animal namesakes? (Doesn't Ron even 
have a long snout...er, nose?). Really, to me it is so obvious that I almost 
hesitated to spell it out in my last post. If we're going to take Wesley as 
an origin, then we may just as well conclude that they have a Methodist 
background!

Regarding their place of residence, there is a piece on this in the FAQ which 
I had long meant to comment on. The Ottery name suggests that they live in 
the West Country, where there are several places with this name element, but 
it has been pointed out that the taxi fare to London (they take a taxi to 
Kings Cross in GoF) from there would have been prohibitive. Not only this, 
but to get to Kings Cross by 11 am, they must live really close to London. 
Molly has to wait until the Post Office is open to telephone,  wait for the 
taxis ( you wouldn't get more than one to a rural address that quickly), load 
them, which seemed to take some time, then get across London to the station, 
get all the luggage out and across to the platform. I would love them to live 
in deepest rural Somerset, but it just doesn't work.

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I've just discovered this post that I'd thought I'd already sent:
In a message dated 09/03/02 04:09:37 GMT Standard Time, jklb66 at yahoo.com 
writes:


> "For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something 
> like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes.  But the next second, Harry was 
> sure he had imagined it, for when Dumbledore had returned to his seat 
> behind the desk, he looked as old and weary as Harry had ever seen 
> him."
> 
> The triumphant look is followed almost instantly by weariness.  When 
> I put the two together, I get the very uncomfortable feeling that 
> Voldemort has indeed given himself a fatal flaw; that Harry's death 
> will cause/allow Voldemort's.  Dumbledore has a brief, "Gotcha!" 
> moment followed by crushing weight of the knowledge that a boy he has 
> come to love may die.
> 

Eloise
Or is it his own death that he forsees? Perhaps an acknowledgement that as 
far as the working out of the prediction which says that Harry will be 
instrumental in Voldemort's ultimate downfall, he has done all that he can. 
She certainly labours the aging factor.
Hey, I've just thought of something, probably nothing, but I'll try it anyway.
What if the reason, or at least *a* reason that Dumbledore trusts Snape is 
because Snape is actually keeping him alive, by the potion that 'stoppers 
death'? Or perhaps he too, has been using the elixir of life, not needing it 
as much as Flamel, but his aging accelerated as it runs out.

Since writing the above, we've been listening to the end of GoF again and one 
of the things that has struck me is the way in which JKR emphasises 
Dumbledore's physical strength at the end of the book: they way he lifts 
Harry from the ground, the way he leaps lightly down into Moody's trunk ( and 
extricates himself), the way he kicks Crouch-Moody's body over, etc. He may 
be looking old, but he's not acting old and certainly not feebly.

Catlady comments on Finwitch 
> 
> > Knuts... A magical knot that tied the World
> 
> I keep thinking the Knut has something to do with King Canute who 
> 

Yes, it does sound Norse. Well, it *is* Norse - Canute is the Anglicisation 
of Knut. But I can't resist reminding people that the point of the story was 
that Canute wished to prove to his nobles that he had *no* god-like powers 
over the waves. It's so often related the wrong way round.

Eloise


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