Dumbledore's role in Priori Incantatem

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No: HPFGUIDX 36684

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., ladjables <ladjables at y...> wrote:
> Say Trelawney predicted a dark wizard who had the
> power to elude death could only be foiled by someone
> with this ability.  Dumbledore is privy to this
> information.  If the feathers were given together, and
> Tom Riddle was able to pick the phoenix wand, long
> before Voldemort even existed, then Dumbledore may
> have had some foresight into the matter and planned
> the duel between evil wizard and good wizard for over
> 50 years, at most.  Giving the two feathers innocently
> seems too daffy even for Dumbledore.  After defeating
> Grindelwald I don't think he would have rested on his
> laurels, that's uncharacteristically lazy.  Would he
> have owned Fawkes since then and not known: 
> 1)what a phoenix feather wand core would represent,
> which should have been portentous?
> 2)about priori incantatem?

Dumbledore also had a phoenix wand... possibly of Nicholas Flamel's 
pet. (Making philosopher's stone? Must have a phoenix-core wand!)

> Creating not one, but two wands seems deliberate.  Not
> apprising the owners of PI seems deliberate. 
> Deliberate and secretive, that's Dumbledore all over. 
> So, I'm speculating that Dumbledore anticipated and
> set up Priori Incantatem.  He was definitely involved,
> and I think Trelawney's first prediction was the key. 
> Oh, he didn't know where and when PI would take place,
> but he knew those two wands would clash someday, and
> his motive was to give the good wizard a surviving
> chance.  

A bit involved, yes. Song of a phoenix encourages those who are of 
pure heart and creates fear in those who are stained. It's tear's 
heal. Perfect pet for a pure-hearted witch or wizard. Few are those 
who manage to tame a phoenix... Are pure-hearted wizards who tried so 
rare? I think AD experienced PI himself - with Grindelwald. He 
managed to hold long enough for Grindelwald's wand to spit out ALL 
spells, including the one that created the wand - and THAT destroyed 
the wand altogether. (Harry felt his wand would be lost if he let the 
current go to his wand).
 
> Dumbledore is aiding and supporting Harry, like the
> prototypical Merlin did for Arthur.  Did Harry really
> just imagine hearing Dumbledore's voice through the
> phoneix song during PI?  Fawkes is really Dumbledore's
> link to Harry. 

Book #1 - Dumbledore says something about knowing that the place he 
should be in was the place he just left... He arrived just in time to 
save Harry (who had used his Love-gives-pain-to-evil-spirit ability 
to fight all that time). Did Fawkes pass this information when the 
Trio was held by the plant?

Book #2 - Harry's nearly dying, when Fawkes brings him the hat, and 
assists Harry many ways.

Book#3... What woke Lupin up to save Harry? BTW... Is Lupin's core 
also a phoenix? A werewolf is not easy to kill, you know. Only by 
silver... He'd *survive* being shot by lead!

Book#4 - obvious

Don't you just love the little Phoenix?

> Like Merlin, Dumbledore knows what
> omens to pay attention to, and with a nudge here, a
> tweak there, he can help things fall into place. 
> Which makes me curious as to what else Albus D. has up
> his roomy robe sleeves.

Get giants before Voldemort does.(Hagrid, Madame Maxime) What did 
Snape do - he was back in a week? Went to Voldemort pretending to be 
Bartolomeus Crouch who's not exactly dead so he could use Polyjuice? 
Possession of Crouch's body? Or something about Azkaban?

The old crowd - Sirius Black, Remus Lupin, Mrs. Arabella Figg and 
Mundungus Fletcher. Hmm... Are they going to get Sirius free? Spread 
news that PP is alive, try to catch him, organise the long-lost trial 
for Sirius AND grant trials for others in Azkaban who didn't get one. 
If they weren't guilty, they'd join in out of gratitude.

Muggles in? Would Bullet-proof jacket protect from AK? Or the 
classic, would an ordinary, Muggle-mirror reflect AK? And NO killing 
or we are no better than them!

Dentists. Is someone going to get a protective amulet that requires a 
tooth?

Some magic protects Harry while in care of his relations. I think AD 
told Dursleys that in the letter. When magic's used within the 
boundaries, this spell gives an alert and someone is bound to come - 
unless it's directed at the one making the magic (Harry wouldn't know 
because he was put into the cupboard).

> Ama, who wonders why no-one ever talks about
> Dumbledore's arrested look...   

Bad memories about fighting Grindelwald, I think...