HRH vs Malfoy, Crabbe, Goyle (Was Snape & Neville's Memory)
uncmark
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Wed Mar 20 01:54:48 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 36710
Concerning Snapes' attitude towards Neville, Harry and Wizard
education in general
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., <porphyria at m...> wrote:
> Part of the reason Snape is so heartlessly cruel to Neville could
> be because he doesn't agree with coddling Neville and fuzzing out
> the ugly truth. Maybe he thinks he can jog Neville's memory by
> antagonizing him.
>
> Yeah, at the risk of sentimentalizing Snape, I'd say the books do
> hint at this very possibility. Regardless of how mean Snape is to
> Neville, he's warm and fuzzy compared to Neville's own family.
> Uncle Algie literally endangers the child's life (multiple times)
> in order to smoke out his magical ability, which is one among
> several indications that adrenaline directly affects wizarding
> skills.
Excuse me? the Longbottom's uncle may have physically egdangered him,
but Snape emotionally abuses Neville and the other Griffindors daily.
> I've wondered many times whether Snape imagines that if he can
> either terrify or infuriate Neville enough that it'll break the
> charm. Doesn't that have Big Bangy potential? I wouldn't put it
> past Snape's degree of cunning, especially since...
So we're to believe he mistreats the Gryffindors out of kindness? One
flaw in that plan, shouldn't he also mistreat the Slytherin's to
encourage the same growth?
Kitty wrote:
>
> Another way he deals with the kids is by being nice to Malfoy &
> co. Give them false sense of security so that they trust him and
> he can manipulate them later. Also doesn't hurt for those rotten
> little boys to tell their DE dads how Snape is wonderfully evil and
> baits HP. Different motives for why he treats different kids the
> ways he does.
When you look at the two trios you see a catch-22 in Snape's method.
(This may go back to the Griffyndor/Slytherin philosphies of
Bravery/Ambition) Harry, Ron, and Hermione, compared to Malfoy,
Crabbe, and Goyle have faced more challenges and will continue to
face more them. Curiously, HRH are motivated to learn more through
selfless action than MCG are throu selfish ambition.
In SS, HRH as true rookies face mortal danger as ELEVEN YEAR OLDS. To
look for the Sorceror's stone, they face dangers that scare off adult
DE's.
In PofA MCG do nothing while the Heir of Slytherin terrorizes
Hogwarts. More importantly, Hermione faces petrification and Harry &
Ron face almost sure death for Ginny.
By PofA, Harry has advanced enough to learn Patronus which is above
OWL level (5th year). Malfoy? He's advanced to the point of faking an
injury.
Finally in GofF, Hermione and Ron rally behind Harry allowing
themselves to be targets as Harry learns Stupify. Malfoy's
acheivement? He's stupid enough to challenge HRH when Harry has
successfully faced Voldemort and the assembled Death Eaters without
backing down.
To see it another way, Compare Hagrid and Snape's teaching style.
Hagrid, while he does beed improvement, treats his student fairly and
avoids the pettiness of subtracting points for every little
disrespect. Snape defines pettiness and favoritism for the Slytherins.
In PofA & GoF, Hagrid faces great crisis when his job is threatened
over Buckbeak & Malfoy's injury AND in GoF over Rita Skeetre's expose
of his heritage. In both instances HRH went to bat for him, never
losing hope.
Can you imqagine if Rita targeted Snape for outing in GoF? DEATHEATER
SPY TEACHING POTIONS AT HOGWARTS! OFTEN THREATENS TO POISON STUDENTS
AND ENCOURAGES DUELLING!
Couyld you imagine MCG going to bat for their Housemaster? I can
picture Malfoy watching as Snape is given the wizard equivalent of
being Tarred & Feathered saying "What's in it for me?'
Uncmark
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