Dumbledore's role in Priori Incantatem

ecuman24 ecuamerican at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 20 06:58:34 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 36717

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Katze <jdumas at k...> wrote:
> ladjables wrote:
> > 
> > Hi everyone,
> > Forgive me if this seems completely obvious/unlikely,
> > but I believe Dumbledore had a hand in Priori
> > Incantatem (PI).
> > 
> > I've never considered Dumbledore omniscient, any more
> > than I would consider him oblivious.  But now Fawkes
> > is on my mind, or rather his tail-feathers are.  How
> > significant is it that two feathers from Dumbledore's
> > pet form the cores of Harry's and Voldemort's wands?
> > I can't accept mere coincidence.
> > 
>  <snip of really cool analysis>
> 
> I've been thinking about this. It is rare that the PI would happen, 
so
> I'd think that not many people would know about it, as you 
suggested.
> How would D know about it? We know he's powerful, and 
knowledgeable -
> enough to bring down Grindelwald. I'm beginning to wonder if there 
was a
> link between Grindelwald and D, just like Harry and V? Perhaps G 
and D
> had brother wands? 
> 
> I completely agree that it wasn't mere coincidence.
> 
> -Katze

Sorry for the jumbled quotes up top but I've been waiting for a 
discussion about the great wands for sometime now.  First thing is 
that Sirius knew about PI also.  I believe it was he who mentioned it 
first by name and Dumbledore agreed.  Second, Grindelwald has also 
been popping up recently in some posts and it has to be very 
important.  I mean, this guy was THE bad guy before Voldemort.  But 
he is not tied in to my theories behind the Wands of the 
Phoenix...yet.

Yes, its very odd that the pet of the best wizard of the time should 
give away *2* feathers: one being evil and one being good.  I say one 
being evil and the other good because their natures would have to be 
like that.  One choosing the up and coming Dark Lord and the other 
helping the hand to over throw it.  But why 2?  Even Dumbldore 
sounded quite astounded when he told Harry that Fawkes gave 2 
feathers.  It seemed like an oddity that that should happen.  
Dumbledore even calls the wands/feathers (I forget which one) 
brothers.  And here is where my Early Greek Myth class comes in 
handy.  We learned that in most Greek myth that involves 2 brothers, 
we see one rise above the other very unjustly and is undeserving of 
what he posseses.  The other sits back for awhile and pounces later 
to take what is rightfully his (i.e. Jason's foster father, Oedipus' 
sons).  But whatever I might be foreshadowing correctly or 
incorrectly, it still doesn't explain why Fawkes did what he did.

Several things have popped in my mind about this flammable bird and 
his owner.  They are more than what they appear to be.  I think that 
either or both Fawkes and Dumbledore may be Animagus.  Fawkes is just 
way too special to be just a bird (just like Scabbers was just way 
too ordinary to be a magical rat).  He may have another magical 
aspect that we have not been introduced to yet.  But for now I say 
Animagus purely because Dumbledore taught Transfiguration "back in 
the day" when we learn that he taught Tom Riddle in CoS.  With 
Dumbledore teaching Transfiguration, there is no doubt that he has 
the knowledge and power to be an Animagus.  And he may be an 
unliscensed Animagus, or else our dear Hermione would have informed 
us in PoA.  Besides, 3 students did it without him knowing and Rita 
Skeeter is one also.  Seems like an easy thing to go beneath the 
radar of the Ministry with this sort of magic.  Anyways, that's where 
I have stopped in my theory of the wands.  The wands are very crucial 
in my mind because they have alwasy fascinated me.  Anyone with 
ideas, theories, or rebuttals I URGE to reply.  I greatly appreciate 
it.

Your friendly neighborhood Ecuamerican






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