Wands& Phoenix

[finwitch]

No: HPFGUIDX 36769

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "ladjables" <ladjables at y...> wrote:
> Edblanning at a... wrote:
> >>I don't think we have evidence that the feathers themselves are 
> bad/good.<<
> 
> But I wonder how the wandmaking process works.  All we know is that 
a 
> bowtruckle has to be placated in order to get wandwood from its 
tree 
> (FB).  How do core and wood combine to form a wand, a wand with 
> special properties that can be channelled in a certain way by its 
> wielder?  Does the core, like a magnet, attract the wood for a 
> special reason?  Just wondering if Fawkes' feathers could have been 
> drawn to the yew and holly or vice versa.  I mean, if the wand 
> chooses its owner, why can't the core choose the wandwood?  And we 
> know who gave the feathers to Ollivander.

And I don't believe a wand - or wand-incredient can be "good" 
or "evil" --- just because Mr. Psycho uses a knife to kill doesn't 
make his knife evil, does it? Wand's a tool - and tools don't have 
good/evil intentions!

But "Wand chooses a wizard" - and "you don't get as good results with 
someone elses wand as you do with your own". Well - I just thought 
about something. When it's YOUR wand, or one of your family member's -
 you can do magic without pronouncing the spell.

Watch little Kevin enlarging the slug by merely tapping it with 
Daddy's wand - compared to false Moody using real Moody's wand to 
enlarge the Spider - *with* pronounced spell. Voldemort made Harry's 
spine bend -- no pronounced spell...

Mr. Ollivander didn't need pronounced spells with those wands that 
were his to test them, but did with those that weren't. Remember 
Harry shouting sparks from his wand, when he doesn't know what to 
expect, when he only waved it to see if it fits?

Also, wand has 3 qualities: core, wood and length. Each needs to be 
the proper one for the wand to suit a wizard. The Maple-Phoenix Harry 
tried simply didn't have the right wood for Harry Potter - and it 
wasn't the proper length, either.

> Eloise on Fawkes: 
> >>He's not just a bird he's a *phoenix*. How special can you get?  
In 
> fact, according to myth, well, western myth at least ( I know they 
> occur in Chinese/Japanese myth too) there is only one. Not just 
> special, * unique*.<< 
>  
> But we know in HP there are other phoenix wands (and so presumably 
> other phoenixes) in existence.  In SS, Harry tried a maple and 
> phoenix feather wand, which did not choose him (US Edition, p. 84).

Wrong wood. Wrong length.
 
> He got not just a phoenix wand, but a Fawkes wand, and Ollivander 
> goes on to explain that the only other person with a Fawkes wand is 
> Voldemort, or more accurately the other Fawkes wand chose Tom 
> Riddle.  I know you weren't saying Fawkes is the only phoenix in 
HP, 
> Eloise, I just have to blather on when I get excited!  I think this 
> offers more proof that Dumbledore arranged (eh, might be too strong 
a 
> word) for Harry and Voldemort to obtain brother wands.

He *can* not arrange it! For one thing, a phoenix only usually gives 
one feather. Did Fawkes do incarnation in between, or were the 
feathers given at the same time? Besides, I doubt Dumbledore had 
*any* control over what wand suits Harry. "Curious" said Mr. 
Ollivander. He was extremely surprised of the fact that Harry Potter 
happened to get the brother-wand to the one who gave him the scar!

"Great deeds" - with a phoenix wand. Powerful magic. Patronus as a 
third-year sounds like that, I'd say.