Death and Justice

grey_wolf_c greywolf1 at jazzfree.com
Tue Mar 26 12:04:22 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 36970

I wrote:
> Even Sirius knows it ("I want to commit the crime I was convicted
> for")_(liberal translation)_ 


Whirdy answered:
> IIRC Black was sent directly to A with no trial, so no conviction. 
> And they were after him for betrayal of the Potters, were they not,
> suspecting him of being LV's spy.
> 
> whirdy

That's actually a quote on what Sirius says in the shack, when he's 
pointing Peter with a wand and is talking with Lupin. I don't know the 
exact words he says in the original book because I haven't read it: 
I've only read it in my language. Maybe JKR doesn't use "convicted" but 
"imprisoned" (Would s.o. please look up the quote for me?), but that's 
beside the point. The point is that Sirius knows that what he's doing 
is not justice, is revenge, and he doesn't pretend otherwise. I'll 
leave minute gramatical discussions on the theme of "de-translating 
Harry Potter back into English" to those with too much spare time on 
their hands.

Anyway, I'm pretty vexed with whirdy's answer, because it's got nothing 
to do with my post, is a one-liner and is wrong: Sirius goes without 
trial to Azkaban for killing Peter Pettigrew and a score of muggles who 
were in the scene of crime. The "proof" was so convincing that he was 
sent directly to Azkaban without trial. The fact that it looked like he 
had betrayed the Potters was probably taken into account, but I doubt 
it was publicly known (it's a _secret_ keeper, after all), except to a 
few people like D'dore. I'm pretty sure, however, that the main reason 
was the muggle-Sirius-Peter situation (maybe s.o. can look up canon on 
that, too. Must be at the beggining of PoA).

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf

PD: This post is more a flame than anything else. I know it, and I'm 
sorry, and I'm taking a rest off right now to calm down.






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