Nimbus 2000 / Dobby / Arthurian / Salazar / H's blood / Pity

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Tue Mar 26 20:42:56 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 36988

Gretchen flynn6 wrote:

> Where did the Nimbus 2000 come from? We know that McGonagall "sent"
> it to Harry, but who paid for it? 

One time that this subject came around, someone made a very clever 
suggestion, that whenever a player makes the first-string Quidditch 
team, Hogwarts buys them one of the best model of standard 
production issue broomsticks on the market at the time. Thus, the 
people who had Comet 260s had made the team when the Comet 260 
was the best around, the people with Cleansweep Sevens had made 
the team a little later when that Cleansweep was the best, and the 
Nimbus 2000 was the best when Harry made the team. Presumably no one 
else first made their House team that year, or there would have been 
another Nimbus 2000 at the school.

In that theory, Hogwarts does not UPGRADE a player's broomstick, so 
the only way the Slytherins could get newer-model broomsticks was 
for some parent(s) to pay for them, and Hogwarts does not REPLACE a 
player's broomstick, thus Harry's angst about replacing the smashed 
Nimbus. A student who had first made the team that year would NOT 
have been given a Firebolt, because the Firebolt was a special 
limited edition model, not standard production issue.

I personally don't believe that theory, but it deserved to be 
mentioned.

Finwitch wrote:

>  If Dobby was house-elf to the Potter-house that was *exploded* by 
> Evil Voldemort, 

Except that the house that was exploded was a Muggle house. (That is 
shown in the scene in the Celluloid-Thing that was specifically 
mentioned as a scene that JKR had written but removed from the book 
because it gave too much information. I would not consider the 
Celluloid-Thing to be an accurate depiction of anything, except for 
the alleged JKR quotes in the above-mentioned hype.)

Chyna Rose wrote:

> I *could* see Dumbledore setting James and Lily up, although  I'm
< not too sure about his doing it just to get Harry. From what I can
> tell, James was a very powerful wizard. And Dumbledore strikes me
> as a person who does things for multiple reasons. Of course this 
> particular line of thought is directing me to towards the good ship
> LOLLIPOPS and giving me another Reason Snape Hated James. 
>(Dumbledore kept Snape busy while James (masqurading as Snape; can 
> you say Polyjuice Potion?) wooed Lily away from Snape)

I personally believe that James and Lily married for love and had 
their baby without planning, but I *can* imagine a scenario in which 
Dumbledore tells them the evidence that shows that they are the 
combination that will have a super-baby to fight for Goodness. As 
dedicated fighters against the Dark Side, and noble enough to 
'choose what is right rather than what is easy', they agreed to 
this arrangement and both broke off their previous engagements 
(which COULD have been Lily to Severus and James to Florence, altho' 
I think they weren't). 

I don't believe in Lily being such a pawn (even tho' the White Pawn 
in Through the Looking Glass is named Lily) that she could be wooed 
away from her beloved by a mere display of Potter charm -- she had to 
know what was going on. Speaking of which, it seems to be canon that 
Lily and James were married and living together with baby Harry, 
which seems to me to rule out the Uther masquerading as Ygraine's 
husband scenario: James spent more than one night with her. Btw, I 
wonder if Polyjuice Potion changes the genes in a person's gametes 
along with all hiser large-enough-to-be-visible body parts?

Edis wrote:
> "nyarth_meow" wrote:
> > Which reminds me, I was wondering where Salazar Slytherin's name
> > originates. (snip) does  Salazar have any connotations,
> Showing my age maybe but I thought 'Salazar' was a reference to
> Antonio Salazar, Fascist dictator of Portugal 

I agree with Edis, but wonder if the name 'Salazar' has any 
interesting meaning or derivation in Portuguese? For my Potterverse, 
I have decided that sa-Lazar changed his name from Lazar-us on 
purpose to sound Salacious. The most famous Lazarus was raised from 
death, and snakes are a symbol of coming back to life because of 
casting their skins, and I seem to be wandering into the popular 
fanfic notion of Voldemort being Slytherin re-incarnated...

Lysa wrote:

> Does this mean that the only person that can kill Voldie now is 
> Harry? How is that bond broken if someone else tries to kill
> Voldie? Would Harry suffer as well? 

To me, this is two different questions. One is whether the blood 
connection means that Harry is the only person who can kill 
Voldemort and the other is whether it means that Harry and 
Voldemort are connected in such a way that neither of them can die 
unless both of them die. The first could be Yes without Harry having 
to die, and the second could be Yes in such a way that a third party 
could kill both of them simultaneously. I believe that both are Yes. 
I think that means that if someone else tried to kill Voldemort, 
their greatest success would be to deprive him of his body so that he 
would have to fly away to Albania and wait for a gullible wizard 
whose body he could possess to come along. The same fate could befall 
Harry.... However, I can't see why Harry would be affected by what 
happens to V (such as losing his body) or V be affected by what 
happens to Harry just because their DEATHS are tied together.

Dicentra doesn't 
> have any pity for Peter as he writhes on the floor crying crocodile
> tears

Not thinking" *that* used to be a Marauder! How far he has fallen!"?





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