[HPforGrownups] Free Elves Unite/Harry as Saviour

[ladjables]

No: HPFGUIDX 37038

--- uncmark <uncmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've seen several postings of Dobby and Winky going
> to the Weasleys, assuming they would be sent by 
> Dumbledore or somehow have their employment 
> transferred. 
> 
> One Flaw about that assumption, Dobby and Winky are
> FREE! At first I  thought Hermione was being a 
> typical flaky teenage protester picketing for Save 
> the Whales and Stop Nuclear Testing, but Hermione 
> seems to have brought to the forefront a truly
> overlooked group.
> 
> Originally I laughed at her stands on Medical Leave
> and Retirement. wondering what an elf nedded with 
> medical care (with their magic I assumed they could
> heal themselves), but I reread the sections on Dobby
> and Winky. Dobby, if not physically beaten himself,
> was ordered to injure himself. Winky, while 
> following her duty to keep secrets was made an 
> accessory to jailbreaking, harboring a fugitive,  
> and  IMPERIO (one of the unforgivable curses)
> 
> Are the Hogwart's elves aware of the treatment of
> their kind by others? Dobby probably saw the worst 
> of any elves mistreatment as the  servant of a Death
> Eater. I don't want to know all that went on with 
> Winky in Crouch's house (A Deatheater capable of
> patricide and a  overzealous Auror that encourages 
> the Use of UnForgiveable Curses).

Speaking of lack of freedom and abuse, I was just
wondering what the consensus is on house-elves.  Do
people believe JKR has set up an analogy for African
slavery by creating such an oppressed group in the
HPverse?  Or is our information on house-elves so
woefully inadequate that we cannot make a case for or
against that concept?  Canon-based diatribes are
welcome, of course!



LTG, 3, wrote:
>Lord Voldemort was regenerated (reborn) because of
>the BLOOD of his foe (amongst other wonderful
>ingredients).... HARRY! Another nod towards Harry
>being a Christ figure?

Amy Z:
>Indubitably, IMO.  So is Lily, with her salvific,
>sacrificial love . . .  So, what do you think?  Will
>Harry die and live again?  And what about 
>Voldemort--is *he* a Christ figure?  He has the
>resurrection if not the self-sacrifice.Very
>appropriate musings for Holy Week.


Am I the only one who feels we've "been there, done
that, bought the T-shirt" regarding resurrection?  Or
am I merely underestimating JKR's ability to bowl me
over after 4 books?  I'm not crazy about the idea of
Harry dying and living again, he's already the Boy Who
Lived (and hence the reason why he will continue to
live, IMO).  And Voldemort has had his little born
again soiree. 

It's true that rebirth, in its literal connotations,
and figuratively as redemption is a wonderful theme,
but, ack!  I'm beginning to develop some cockeyed
notions of how Harry could be killed and brought back,
and I know why I have a problem with it!  It reeks of
my bete noire, Soap Opera Plot Extreme!  Alright, I'll
have faith in JKR.  Just because I can't do it doesn't
mean she can't construct a fantastic climax without
going the Way of the S.O.P.E.
A now tranquil(ized) Ama


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