Wormtail's fault - Life-debt - Muggle house - Christ figures
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Mar 27 19:23:08 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 37049
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Amy Z" <aiz24 at h...> wrote:
> Grey Wolf wrote:
>
> >V only needed the help of _ANY_ DE to return. Wormtail was
available, but
> >in less than three months, so would have been Crouch Jr. So,
in fact,
> >Wormtail only made the return of V a little faster, and in reality
not even
> >that, since they had to wait until after the quidditch cup, and by
then V
> >had already contacted Crouch Jr.
>
> Crouch Jr. couldn't have been freed from his father's Imperius
Curse if Voldemort hadn't returned to England, and he could
only return to England thanks to Wormtail.
I don't think JKR subscribes to the "one man" theory of history.
Look what she has Harry say when Hagrid blames himself for
giving away Fluffy's secret:
"Hagrid, he'd have found out somehow, this is Voldemort we're
talking about, he'd have found out even if you hadn't told him."
There's also Dumbledore's words to Harry when he blames
himself for letting Pettigrew get away.
"The consequences of our actions are always so complicated,
so diverse, that predicting the future is a difficult business
indeed..."
The implication is that eventually, with or without Wormtail, Voldie
would have found some way to come back. The damage
Voldemort causes by being resurrected also has to be weighed
against the fact that Wormtail, by returning him to a mortal form,
has made it possible for Voldemort to die.
> >I must say that I really, *really* cannot see
> >how JKR is going to make Harry grateful that he saved
Wormtail's
> >life. Say even if W rescues Harry, or Ron, or someone else
from
> >V -- But V would never have come back and put whoever in the
position
> >of needing to be saved in the first place if it hadn't been for W.
> >So I really can't see Harry feeling grateful for it under any
> >circumstances. Can any of you think of any?
>
Well, Dumbledore doesn't say Harry will feel grateful. He says
Harry will be glad. I think ultimately Harry will be in a position
where he must sacrifice his life to save the world from
Voldemort, and that Wormtail will intervene at this point to save
Harry, destroy Voldemort and fulfill his debt. Since Harry
believes, as Hagrid does, that Voldemort's return was inevitable,
he is not likely to think, well, if Pettigrew hadn't brought him back
none of this would have happened. Instead he'll think, well, I and
my friends are alive because I did what my father would have
done.
Pippin
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