Gringotts and wizard-guardian Was (Re: Where did the Nimbus 2000 come from? )

uncmark uncmark at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 26 01:56:18 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 37132

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., 
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "uncmark" <uncmark at y...> wrote:
> I posted before a question about Gringott's Bank. In Goblet of 
> Fire (Ch. 5 & 10) Mrs. Weasley offers to pick up Harry's school 
> supplies while he is at the world cup and when he returns he finds 
> she not only shopped, but got him gold out of his vault. How? He 
> never gave her permission(although he would have given it 
willingly). 

"zoehooch" <zoehooch at y...> wrote:
> Just because there isn't an explicit scene in the book where Harry 
> gives Mrs. Weasley the key or some kind of formal permission to 
> enter his vault, doesn't neccessarily mean that such an occurance 
> didn't happen. To have such a scene doesn't really advance the 
> plot. I suspect that JKR had to make extensive cuts to GoF just to 
> get it to its present length.

You have a point, Zoe. I rechecked Sorceror's Stone that went into 
great detail about Harry's first Gringott's visit. In Chapter 5, 
Hagrid has the key to Harry's vault and a letter from Dumbledore to 
get into vault 713. I MISSED THAT THE FIRST TEN READINGS!

There is no mention of the key in further books, so it is either one 
of 100 details that JKR didn't have room to write or maybe the 
Goblins will keep the key for famous Harry Potter. 

As for the letter, we now have CANON proof that the goblins accept 
letters for vault access. (They no doubtedly have some goblin magic 
against forgeries) My point is what was Hagrid doing with the key to 
Harry's vault anyway? I assume Dumbledore gave him the key but he 
isn't Harry's guardian , Uncle Vernon is... or is he?

My hypothesis is that Harry is a VERY IMPORTANT orphan of wizards 
with Muggle relatives. In his unique case, the MoM named Dumbledore 
his wizard guardian to handle decisions about Harry's education and 
wizard riches. 

Consider that otherwise Hagrid's acts in Sorceror's Stone amounted to 
kidnapping and that as a minor Uncle Vernon should have had full 
access to Harry's gold. (From PofA, we see Gringotts does exchange 
wizard and Muggle money.)

Opinions?
Uncmark





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