Unforgivable Curses (was: Memory Charms

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Sat May 4 16:55:32 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 38461

Before I get to my point, Hey Marina! I completely agree with you 
on the "dissing the Slyths" thread! 

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "grey_wolf_c" <greywolf1 at j...> wrote:

> OK, before I get into the more technical matter of the morality of 
> forgetting and making forget, just a little canon here (just so the 
> rest of the post makes sense in HP4GU). *Technically* the memory 
> charm cannot be one of the unforgivable, because in that group the 
> only spells included are those that are unblockable. Maybe they're 
> counterable (like the Imperious), or maybe you can dodge them (like 
> AK), but there is no magic shield that can stop them. Any other 
> curse can be blocked with some spell or another, like the ones 
> H/R/H practiced before the last challenge in GoF. Those three 
> happen to be  pretty inmoral spells, but it's the fact that a 
> wizard can do nothing to protect himself from them is what makes 
> them unforgivable. 

Hey, Grey Wolf! I keep wondering WHAT makes the Unforgiveable Curses 
unforgiveable. IS there someplace in canon that states that the 
reason is that they are the only three spells that cannot be blocked? 
I recall "Moody" saying that the AK cannot be blocked but do not 
recall him saying that Crucio or Imperius cannot be blocked. Do we 
know whether there are any other spells, beside the 3 Unforgiveables, 
that cannot be blocked? 

Some other explanations have been proposed for why the Unforgiveables 
are unforgiveable. Some say, because they accomplish pretty immoral 
(your phrase) effects, but I disagree, because there are a lot of 
spells that accomplishment pretty immoral effects. 

All the other explanations hypothesise information not given in 
canon, such as, the 3 Unforgiveables damage the recipient's soul
not just hiser body. 

Or casting an Unforgiveable requires summing up a level of hate and 
arrogance (or some other set of Bad feelings) in oneself; no wizard, 
no matter how magically powerful, can cast an Unforgiveable unless 
heesh has this internal Badness. 

Or the one I sort like, that casting an Unforgiveable leaves a 
residue of Badness in the caster, so that a previously okay person 
can become as evil as Voldemort by repeatedly casting Unforgiveables.





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