[HPforGrownups] Re: TBAY: Stoned Harry

[Edblanning at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 38618

In a message dated 09/05/02 15:28:46 GMT Daylight Time, 
cindysphynx at comcast.net writes:


> Oh, but there is another parallel.  What Biblical figure was 
> beheaded?  I think there was only one -- John the Baptist!  So Harry 
> is the sacrifical lamb, and Ron is John the Baptist, who, er . . . 
> um, . . . 
> 
> <consults Cliffnotes Bible>
> 
> Uh, a little help here?  I need a Biblical parable where two figures 
> are killed while fighting on a swaying catwalk over a river of 
> molten lava.
> 

Yeah. I was having problems there, which is why I didn't bring up John the 
Baptist. It did make me wonder briefly whether we should be looking at a John 
the Baptist parallel for Harry, rather than a Christ one, but I don't think 
the rest works. I mean, I can't see him wandering round the Forbidden Forest 
living on locusts and wild honey and dunking people in the lake.

But to be serious, I don't really see Ron as a Baptist figure and the 
prediction is of Harry's decapitation, not Ron's. And of course if we *are* 
going to bring the Baptist into it, then who is Salome? Or Herodias? 
I know, I know....don't all shout at once.....Mrs Lestrange.....but I can't 
fit it together at all.

OK. We seem to be rolling out ca(n)ons galore today. Want any more?

In the First Task, Harry overcame a *dragon*, symbol of the Devil. In the 
Second Task, which is linked by Harry and Ron's predictions to the idea of 
drowning, he has to swim beneath the lake which could be interpreted as 
baptism.... I'm stuck on the Third Task. The same, of course is true for the 
other champions (and the friends below). I have always rather assumed that 
Fleur and Viktor will be Harry's allies.

Now the Champions' wands. When Ollivander tests them, they all seem to emit 
something which reflects something about the owner. 
Fleur: flowers, befitting her name
Viktor, the flyer: birds
Cedric: smoke rings, reminiscent of the form he assumes after death

And Harry's? Harry's wand, made of holly which symbolises death and 
resurrection and which contains a phoenix tail feather, another resurrection 
symbol, Harry's wand emits *wine*. 

I suggest we check the stability of the Big Bang and make sure all these 
ca(n)nons aren't pushing us too far down in the water. You know what happened 
to the over-armed Mary Rose, don't you? As soon as she changed course, water 
flooded in through the open gun-ports and she sank like a stone!

And if Cindy really wants rivers of molten lava, she doesn't really have to 
look any further than Revelation. I guess we are pointing to an Apocalyptic 
ending, after all.

Eloise






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