Idea AND re: shippiness/Krum - Yew - HP as Christian Allegory

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Fri May 10 07:25:11 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 38627

Dumbledore has white hair and beard in the 'now', and he had auburn 
hair and beard at age 100 in the CoS flashback. Karkaroff has white 
beard in GoF but it was black in the Pensieve flashback. Could it be 
that wizards' hair gets white not from age, but as a sign of being 
Headmaster of a school?

Barb wrote:

> I'm surprised that [Hermione] didn't throw back in [Ron's] face
> that he also asked a champion to the ball. 

They all agreed that he had not asked Fleur of his will, but because 
he was compelled by her veela magic that sideswiped him while aimed
at Roger Davies.

Akhetsi wrote:

> About Hermione, doesn't anyone want to see her with Krum? 

I'd like to, but I don't think JKR will make it happen. (In fact, now 
that Krum has been found to be a good guy, I expect JKR to kill him 
in the next book.) I think that Krum's attraction to Hermione shows 
that he has good taste beyond his years. I think that Krum has quite 
enough glory of his own that he won't mind sitting back admiringly 
while Hermione shows off her intelligence and political activism; Ron 
would get competitive with her and Harry would find it wearisome.

Lila HP wrote:

> The yew tree. It is said to be an ancient symbol of immortality.

The yew tree is a symbol of death. Because: 1) Its berries are 
poisonous. 2) The English longbow was so great because it was made of 
yew wood which is a natural composite. 3) It is traditionally planted 
in churchyards on purpose to consume the buried corpses as tree 
fertilizer.

That last point is probably the most relevant to there being a yew 
tree in the churchyard scene of GoF: it could be realism rather than 
symbolism. Oh, Eloise already said that. 

Eloise wrote:

> Just as the Christian myth isn't complete without the Resurrection,
> surely the Harry Potter myth isn't complete without Harry's death 
> (if that is what it indeed entails) bringing about some re-ordering
> of the WW, releasing it from the prejudice and injustice on which
> we have commented time and time again.

I speculate: the most active and heroic participants in the 
destruction of Voldemort were our Trio: Harry, Ron, and Hermione. 
Harry and Ron both having died in the struggle, Hermione is the 
main surviving hero, so she is chosen by acclamation to be the new 
Minister of Magic, and she sets energetically to setting the 
wizarding wizard to rights. Hopefully with some Weasleys or TAGWATCH 
to advise her when her acronyms are bad and should be replaced.

L. Terrell Gould III wrote:

> Does anyone else find it curious that most of the parallels found
> on this site between HP and religion involve the iconography of 
> Christianity?

In addition to the fact that a tremendous amount of literature written 
in English involves Christianity, and JKR was influenced by 
literature, there also is an interview out there somewhere in which 
she states that she is a member of the Church of Scotland and admits 
that her Christian beliefs have influenced her writing. 

Cindy Sphinx wrote:

> who, if anyone, we are *absolutely* confident will survive the 
> series.

Hermione. For JKR to kill Hermione would be suicide. I can't say 
"absolutely" about Hermione's parents, but I *think* they will
 survive as well.







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