TBAY: more Neville theories (long)

jtdogberry jmt59home at aol.com
Fri May 17 00:30:39 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 38811

Okay, I'd better start answering my own questions (staring at the 
pile of revision that is meant to be done as there are six exams next 
week and I don't know a thing!!.)
I had probably better say that I am not an english student or a 
psychology student so any thing that is I say, is purly speculation 
and from a rather ignorant viewpoint. 
Okay here we go...
 My own acronym!!! (very excited) W.I.N.C.H, Why Is Neville Choosing 
Humiliation, *smiles proudly*

I am not a fan of the memorey charm thing, simply because its too 
easy. Yes, it has been hinted about Bertha and all that to do with 
charms etc but I think Neville's forgetfullness and clumsiness is his 
own doing. It could for one or more of the reasons I'm about to lay 
out. I do think Neville saw what happened to his parents but there is 
more to the story. He is a very sweet and gentle characture but there 
is a sadness about him too and that is what will play a role in the 
future.

Er, I'd better point out that I don't really have any proof for any 
of the following and yes, they conflict each other.

Firstly, guys and gals, Barty Crouch Jnr was one of those accused of 
the torture, surly it makes sense that he would have found out about 
Voldermort via his father who would have heard it from Frank, it 
could be possible that he was even there when Crouch Snr was told.  
Since Frank would have known Barty Crouch Jnr and his father, if he 
was to knock on the door, I don't think Frank would see it a 
suspicious until too late! Hence why the Longbottoms were targetted 
and why Mrs L and kid/s couldn't run. 

Why weren't they killed? Well the D.Es can't find Voldie without 
them, and when the MoM were on they way, the death eaters made a run 
for it rather then get caught, it's easier to talk later then at the 
scene of the crime.

 Which brings me on to  W.I.N.C.H.
Either
Neville could have had a older/younger sibling and both (or more) of 
them were there. At a guess, Neville was four (I still remember 
things from when I was four), it would have taken a long time before 
Aurors were safe to come out of hiding. That means, as soon as the 
parents knew it was a trap, they told Neville and other to run  while 
they held back the DEs (again, I am guessing that there were more 
then 4 DEs) but little ones was caught but, following parents 
example, tried to save each other and protect themselves, but other 
one died.
or 
blames himself for not being able to help his parents
Four year old Neville is very distraught and blames himself and this 
is not dealt with and is the filth under Neville rug, all he can see, 
is himself as a failure and so starts a vicious circle.

In this case, Gran could have said that Neville wasn't there to spare 
him the pain of having to re-live the events that happened, or to lay 
a trap for the DEs because if Frank and wife were in hidding, then 
only those very close to them would have known that they had had any 
children at all (hence the reason Mr and Mrs Weasley have never 
mentioned the Longbottoms to Harry and co, why would Harry and Ron 
know about them?)Gran is very loving but strict towards Neville to 
try and help him get over it but he feels that he has let everyone 
down and downplays himself because of no self confidence.

In summary, Case one. Guilty Neville. Neville is stopping himself 
from achieving out of fear and guilt.

Case two. 
I have Greywolf to thank for this one. As Greywolf said in a reply to 
my previous post, Neville's Gran is protective but not loving. Very 
lonly Neville is on gran's doorstep, who live in a house on her own. 
Gran is a very scary person to a four year old who has seen his 
parent go insane (little sibbling theory doesn't have to apply here)
and is confused and scared. Gran is very strict and little Neville 
wants attention and love and a hug but is not sure how to get it from 
Gran and so starts becoming clumsy and forgettful so he can have more 
attention from gran.
This has a bit of a bang to it. How easy is it to manipulte Neville 
if its love and attention he is seeking because if the above is true, 
he is not getting the attention he really wants and has been settling 
for second best? "What is easy and what is right", would Neville be 
able to fight promises of having a proud and loving master/mentor to 
save friends?

It does seem that the "family" want Neville to be some type of 
avenger and Neville wants nothing to do with it. I think that he also 
feel that he doesn't have anyone he can really talk to.

That is why I am worried about the little guy!!! He is not going to 
have an easy time in any case. Neville needs a big hug!

Dogberry
who despite having exams next week is still trying to find ways out 
of revision.









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