TBAY: Toadkeeper, evil Gran and not-so-bent Algie

jtdogberry jmt59home at aol.com
Sat May 18 15:08:36 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 38855

*Runs to the lecturn*
After the amazing posts on the memory charms...

*Ducks as as various objects and abuse are hurled*
*not another theory Dog, that's the third one this week!!!. shouldn't 
you be doing revision. whip cracks.*

Sod the revision, this is much more intresting!!! *Looks around 
nervously for other Mdmm students, pulls hood over a little more*

I'm not saying that I altogether agree with the evil Gran theory but 
if it is true then Great Uncle Aglie may not be as bent as we 
thought. To save me writing everything out, can everyone please turn 
to page 93 of PS where Neville talks about his family. Read carfully! 
This is the only time Algie is mentioned.

Let us see, if Evil gran wanted the Longbottom estate then she would 
need Neville alive because it would be to suspicious if he was dead, 
but if he was a squib, then he can't inherite anything magical. As 
his guardian, it would go to gran. Gran is not a Longbottom by blood, 
I will, for this theory, assum that Algie is, probably a younger 
brother to her husband.

Great Uncle Aglie (G.U.A.)must have seen a lot of Neville to try and 
force magic out of him. He is already suspicious but has no proof. He 
is keeping regular checks on Neville, he and his wife went TO 
Neville's after all. Just in case.

When Neville can do magic, Gran cries. That has always struck me as 
odd, it doesn't seem right for her somehow. But there still is not 
threat to her as he may not be magical enough to inherite (like 
Flitch, remember Neville says in COS almost a squib). Back to PS "You 
should have seen their faces when I got in". One very relived Uncle 
Aglie, one very stuned Gran who can't show dissapointment, she has to 
think of another way of inheriting. Family pride. 

Neville will be in the same year as Harry. Very convenient. Uphold 
the family name, and get yourself killed in the process, after all, 
she has been looking after Neville, she is not blame if something 
happens to him in school!!! She know too well that Neville has no 
confidence in himself and doesn't think he has any abilities yet she 
still go on about family pride, but she only starts doing this from 
the third book onwards, if you remember, Neville tells the others 
that Gran KNOWS that he always forgets things (see the rembembrall). 
Which answers the question of what was Neville about to say when he 
fell through the stairs in GOF.

Algie is two steps ahead of her! Trevor.
Neville is the only person with a toad. From the third book, Trevor 
isn't trying to get away from him any more, he was under his hat on 
the train!!! If someone found a stray toad without an owner, it would 
be Trevor but since when is Neville far away, like Flitch and Mrs 
Norris. Trevor is Algie's way of keeping an eye on Neville. Bit odd 
that Neville was still up and on his own in PS. Besides, Trevor 
always turned up AT Hogwarts (e.g. the boat). If something was wrong 
with Neville, Trevor could get help and no one could mistake him for 
anyone elses pet!

The way Neville talks about gran, he does seem scared of her. Algie 
can't tell him everything because 
a)Gran might find out 
b) it would scare the poor kid.
Insted, he implies things to Neville who does get the hint, hence the 
reason, he is so protective over a seemingly useless pet. Neville is 
also droping hints to the others that Gran is not what she seems 
looking at the way he talks about her but he can't incriminate Algie 
but he has suggested that Algie is looking after him but has left the 
others to belive that he is a bent loony at first glance.

This also fits with W.I.N.C.H (why is Neville chosing humiliation). 
Dumbledore is puzzeled by why Neville hasn't ever mentioned his 
parents. Could it be that Neville's clumsyness and botched memory is 
a way of protecting himself whether he knows it or not? Someone who 
is always asking for help will get more attention then a clever 
person and could find out more in a very innocent way. Of course, not 
everyone is fooled, Snape who suspect dodgy dealing somewhere and 
takes an *use it or lose it" attitude to him. But it could be that 
Neville needs to throw of the web of lies Neville has been subject to 
and no better place for his talent to be discovered then at school.

I'll let someone else finish this off (a.k.a must get on with 
somework before my housemates become suspicious).

Dogberry









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