Evil and Slytherin (Harry's Dream)

bluesqueak pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk
Sun May 19 17:40:02 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 38894

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "irene_mikhlin" <irene_mikhlin at b...> wrote:

> What about that dream Harry had the night after sorting? Where the 
> voice from under Quirrel turban told him to transfer to Slytherin, 
if 
> I remember right.

Good point! (she says, in a drat-I'd-forgotten-that-bit tone of voice)

> I wonder if it was Voldemort-induced dream. In the morning Harry 
did 
> not even remember he dreamt anything. And the source of the voice 
is 
> pretty suspicious - at this stage Harry did not have any conscious 
or 
> subconscious reason to connect Quirrel with the dark side.

However...
He may have had a subconcious reason to connect Quirrel's *turban* 
with the dark side (Quirrel himself isn't in the dream) - in the 
scene at the Sorting Feast Harry's scar hurts him when the back of 
Quirrel's turban is towards him. Consciously, Harry thinks it's 
Snape, looking at him. Subconsciously???

> So, why would Voldemort want him in Slytherin?
> And, if he is able to influence dreams, 

Is it a Voldemort-induced dream? I'm sure JKR wants us to *think* it 
is. But surely Voldemort would be a little more subtle than to tell 
Harry he 'must' do something. His Tom Riddle persona is, in CoS - he 
lies to Harry by showing him the exact truth, and remarks that "I've 
always been able to charm the people I needed" (CoS UK paperback 
p.228)

>may be Professor Snape also 
> had a little magical dream that night? Something telling him to 
> befriend the boy and make sure he asks to be transferred? Which, of 
> course puts Snape's subsequent behaviour in interesting light.
> > 

I take it you mean that he promptly makes sure Harry dislikes him 
intensely - interesting. It also implies that Voldemort still thinks 
Snape is loyal.

> > The question is, is 'ain't no such thing as a good Slytherin' 
JKR's 
> > own opinion? Or are the readers being set up for a nice big bang? 
> > Where Harry has to acknowledge that he has his own nasty little 
> > prejudices - or that, like Draco, he has taken on his father's 
> > prejudices?
> 
> I'm thinking of "Three musketeers" for some reason. Even 
D'Artagnian 
> recognised eventually that the other side is not evil per se, and 
if 
> his first friends were not musketeers, he could as easily become a 
> cardinal's guard. And Richelieu would make a splendid Head of 
> Slytherin, no doubt about it. :-)

Wouldn't he just!

Pip






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