SHIP: Harry, Hermione, Ron and JKR's Split personality
selah_1977
selah_1977 at yahoo.com
Tue May 21 03:49:36 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 38940
Hello, everyone--quick re-introduction, as I haven't posted here in
dog years--Ebony AKA AngieJ, mostly on the Convention/Gathering and
Evil!Fanfic (chuckle) side of the fandom these days, but wanted to
poke my head back in here to respond to this:
Ana wrote:
> > I often read that Rowling based Hermione's character on herself
> > and Ron's--on her own best friend, what's-his-name. Now, I don't
> > know how a writer's mind works (and it's a shame, after all those
> > months of reading fanfiction I should :)), but with romance not
> > being the central theme of the books and all that... wouldn't it
> > be more economical for Rowling to take a perfectly good best
> > friends relationship from real life, maybe with some romantic
> > interest at some point, but definitely just best friends in the
> > end... and just put it on paper instead of inventing something
> > different for these two?
And Barb wrote:
> You make a good point, but OTOH, I think that Harry is even more
> based on JKR than Hermione. <snip...> So if she's writing Harry as
the masculine side of herself and Hermione as the feminine side, it
makes sense that the two of them would have the same best friend--one
based on HER best friend (and perhaps this is why Ron feels like the
most well-rounded of the three to me--she's not permitting some of
her qualities to go into either Harry or Hermione while she conserves
them for the other character). One could argue in this case that
this makes it more likely that she'll pair Hermione and Ron--(would
she pair herself with herself?) or you could use the same information
to argue Hermione/Harry (together they make a whole). Or this could
be the main argument of the non-shippers. We obviously won't know
for sure for a while.<<
Other than Ron being perhaps the most well-rounded of the Trio
(hmm...), I think that both Ana and Barb's points are interesting,
considering a post I made in December 2000--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/7284
It's extremely difficult to use psychoanalytic criticism with the HP
books, as the author is living and very private with the details of
her personal life... not nearly as easy as doing seminar papers
applying Lacan to say, Mary Shelley or James Joyce. Nevertheless, a
year and a half after I posted that theory, I really haven't changed
my mind much.
This is why I pretty much stopped debating ship over six months ago
after a year of doing so. I now believe that one cannot *prove* ship
to people, and neither should one feel compelled to do so. Shipping
is based upon a sum total of how people read the books, their RL
experiences, what they believe is important in love and romance, etc.
It is not always contingent upon the actual canon, either--a year
ago, we had a *long* discussion going in which quite a few H/Hers
said they didn't like the romances in *Little Women*, either. In
another fandom of mine, we have something called the "Dean vs. Teddy"
debate--in that particular author's stories, all of my ships are
canon, but there are plenty of people who I respect who believe that
the ending of this particular series was pretty badly written (which
I concede) and that the female protagonist ended up with the wrong
guy (which I do not concede ;-)).
I've seen compelling arguments for Ron/Hermione over the past two
year, but in those same two years none have rung as true for me as
Harry/Hermione theory and what I read as Harry/Hermione subtext in
canon. Similarly, I am sure that Ron/Hermione theories, fanfic, and
canon events (esp. in GoF) have convinced others... indeed, reading
GoF nearly swayed me to concede Ron/Hermione as a likely scenario in
the near canonical future (I conceded this kicking and screaming,
I should note--I was not happy about it at all at first!) and I still
think canon is going that way. And while Ron/Hermione is not my
ship of preference, I cannot say it is total anathema to me. I've
read my share of it. Heck, I've *written* it. If it happens, it
happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. This will still be a great
series no matter what the pairings are.
Because when all is said and done, I've read these books just as many
times as any fan who's been around for a while. I've seen shipping
debates come and go... and I still think I'm right. I'm still as
much in favor of H/H as I ever was. Judging from the three weeks'
worth of posts I just skimmed, and recognizing many familiar posters
and positions on both sides, I think that I am far from alone. Those
who leaned R/H a year ago still lean that way, those who lean H/H
along with me still lean that way, and the no-shippers are still
gritting their teeth at us all. :)
As far as Harry getting no girl because he is the Hero on a Hero's
Quest/Journey, JKR's own words refute that--she has definitely
confirmed that romance is in the cards for the young Mr. Potter (and
I daresay she reads them better than Trelawney!). Perhaps with a new
character. Perhaps with someone we have already met. I can honestly
say that I don't know, and I am looking forward to finding out what
JKR has in store for us.
That is, whenever Book 5 comes out... sigh...
--Ebony AKA AngieJ
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