Imperius and Hurt-Comfort (not at the same time)
catlady_de_los_angeles
catlady at wicca.net
Mon May 27 23:13:30 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 39101
Ali Hewison wrote:
> when Harry first sees the Veela we are told:
> "Harry's mind had gone completely and blissfully blank" (p.94 GoF
> UK Hardback).
> So, as I read it, although he wasn't under the Imperius curse when
> he saw the Veela, the description is similar enough for the
> graveyard Imperius to be the "third time" his mind had been wiped
> of all thought - although only the second time he had actually been
> under the Imperius curse.
Hmm. Does that suggest that Veela magic is a form of innate and
perhaps automatic Imperius Curse? The command "Desire me!" cast on
any and all men in the vicinity (or any and all straight men and
gay women: JKR didn't specify). Therefore sharing whatever qualities
of Imperius Curse that cause it to be Unforgivable? (As I do not
believe that the Unforgivable Curses have nothing to distinguish them
as a group except all being mentioned in the same regulation.)
Irene wrote:
> If "Hurt-Comfort" is all it takes, how would you explain then the
> almost perfect dichotomy of Sirius and Snape fan clubs? I know 1
> (one) person who likes them both, for the rest they appear quite
> incompatible.
I am only one of the myriad of HPfGU women who rush, whenever someone
claims that there is a dichotomy between fancying Severus and
fancying Sirius, that *I* fancy both.
But I don't fancy Sirius as Hurt-Comfort: the Sirius I fancy is the
pre-Azkaban one, the handsome boy with laughing eyes, who takes crazy
risks flying on his motorcycle and doesn't think of consequences ...
and I only want to sleep with him (and *maybe* be friends): he is
NOT husband material.
Fancying Severus is a real case of Hurt-Comfort, in fact a cliche of
cheap romance novels: the tall, dark, powerful,intelligent, NASTY man
who won't let people get emotionally close to him, but the Nastiness
is the result of his own tremendous inner suffering, and the romance
heroine (i.e. the reader ... or Draco in my fic!) manages to melt
that ice, get close to him, heal his inner suffering with her love,
and then he loves her, with romantic words, hot sex, and more respect
for her thoughts and feelings that he has ever shown for anyone
else's before.
> Then how come Neville does not win any popularity contests? Not
> with the girls in the Hogwarts, not with the girls that read about
> Hogwarts?
Because it's not enough to be a poor hurt little woobie whom the
bleeding hearts want to baby and the Tough want to slap and shout:
"Get over it!" The romance heroine can feel proud of having found an
otherwise unrecognized treasure in a junkyard (yard sale, junktique
shoppe), and bought it cheap and brought it home and fixed it up so
that now everyone is awed at her valuable antique or precious gem,
ONLY if what she found IS a treasure: that means, he has to, even
when injured, show such 'masculine' virtues as ... well, not being
fat (like Neville). And not being clumsy (like Neville). And not
being nice (like Neville).... In fact, maybe maybe the only masculine
virtue that the romantic hero has to demonstrate is Nastiness! So the
romantic heroine is Even More Bent: a masochist as well as a sadist!
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