GOF: Some things cleared up by reading...

Emily F mn_emily at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 7 17:26:35 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 46262

Julie said:
"I'm not quite sure that I agree with this.  I think this was the end
of another school year when he was expelled, and I think the former
headmaster probably quit then (or may have been asked to leave by the
board, not sure there), and Dumbledore became headmaster.  Therefore
I think what would have been the *4th* year for Hagrid was his first
year as Gamekeeper.
*snip* *Reference to PS/SS pg. 59*
That little quote seems to me to mean *stay on* as in, no going to
find a new home because daddy is dead and he has no home, Hogwarts
became his home.  He's expelled, yet stays.  So I'm leaning towards
end of school year here . . . "

I say:
Well, if we assume that Dumbledore the Headmaster appointed Hagrid, then we 
can guess at which point Hagrid became gamekeeper.  From PoA, QP pg. 353, 
"Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs":  "'It seemed impossible that I would 
able to come to Hogwarts. . . But then Dumbledore became Headmaster, and he 
was sympathetic...'"  So Dumbledore became Headmaster in between Lupin being 
bitten (or receiving the bite, however one chooses to say it :-)) and Lupin 
starting at Hogwarts.  I suppose we don't know for a fact that Lupin started 
when he was 11, but we have no reason to assume otherwise.

Looking at the 1 child vs. 7 children scenario (children's ages aside!), 
it's fair to say that Molly and Arthur have a good 10+ years on James and 
Lily.  Therefore, Hagrid probably wasn't at Hogwarts when Molly and Arthur 
were there.

And if you ever doubt Hagrid's ability to say what he doesn't mean, I'll 
remind you of the infamous:
"'There's not a single witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in 
Slytherin.'"

Emily

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