Vampires / Immortality / Creature repression

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Nov 7 18:48:00 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 46264

Ellen :
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> wrote:
>
> Ah, but vampires are classified as *non-wizard*...if that means 
> that people who become vampires lose their magic, Voldemort 
> may not be able to compensate for that. 
> 
> It would also go a long way to explain the great fear of 
vampires 
> among the wizard folk. Would creatures which have no 
> non-magical phase, such as Centaurs, die from the bite rather 
> than becoming immortal?
> 

Ellen:
>>Do you mean no magical abilities? (Centaurs?) I'm not sure 
they have no magical abilities- they certainly seem to have 
carried magic to a higher plane than wizards have....<<

Me:
Hm...I seem to have expressed myself in my usual muddled 
fashion. The source material is muddled, too. The 
classifications are biological in origin but political in 
application--not unlike the US, where by law a tomato is not a 
fruit. <g>


I was trying to say that I think *all* Centaurs  have magical 
abilities. I think magic is intrinsic to their existence, unlike,
say,  humans or owls. Going on the non-canonic but popular 
convention that  new vampires have hardly any magic, a Centaur 
who was drained of its magic by a vampire could not become a 
vampire itself but would die.

All part-human races must be magical  since they are all hidden 
from Muggles, so "wizard" in the phrase "non-wizard 
part-human"  must distinguish not between magical and 
non-magical part-humans, but between those that may use 
wands and those that may not.

 What we don't know is what determines the difference: probably 
some part-humans are capable of using wands but are legally 
forbidden to do so, while others don't use wands  because they 
have powerful magic of their own and/or because wands don't 
work for them. I'd guess vampires fall into the latter category.

So what I was trying to say is that if Voldemort became a 
vampire, he might be drained of wizard magic and have to start 
all over at the beginning to acquire vampire magic, which might 
take hundreds of years. I'm guessing that wouldn't appeal to 
him.

I suspect that the Code of Wand use applies equally to all 
non-humans in the same way that the law forbids both rich and 
poor to sleep under bridges. There must be some drawbacks to 
wand use we haven't been told about yet. Why are most wizard 
families so small, and why did Ron say that if wizards hadn't 
married Muggles they'd have died out?

Pippin





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