[HPforGrownups] Egypt, the Bible, and Harry's right arm

Beth Loubet bloubet at incanmonkey.com
Thu Nov 7 22:00:48 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 46287

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "bugaloo37" <crussell at a...> wrote:
>
> Something else about Bill Weasley needs to be remembered-he works
in
> Egypt ( remember the Weasleys went to visit him in PoA).  What
> difference does that make -you might ask.  Here is a recent
discovery
> I made concerning the origin of the Phoenix myth.  Yes-the word
> Phoenix is of Greek origin but guess what -the concept of the
phoenix
> is-you guessed it Egyptian.  As everyone knows the Egyptians were
> obsessed with immortality-a bird that can rise from the
ashes-reborn-
> would be right up there alley  What better place for Voldemort to
> head for than Eqypt in his quest for immortality-and if Bill just
> happens to be there already-look out!!
>
> bugaloo37

From: "qaztroc" <gliese229b at aol.com>
>>Well, bugaloo37 may have something here!

Remember when JKR said that Harry would go to some place
that was mentioned previously in the books but that he
hasn't visited yet? Most of us assumed that it would
be Azkhaban or the MoM. But what if this were Egypt and
those pyramids, or ancient tombs, where the Weasleys
went on vacation? Or was it really a vacation?

That would fit in nicely with the Egyptian connection
suggested in the title. That would also suggest
that Bill would be an important character in book 5 (and
that he might indeed be the one to suffer a "bad death").

Any thoughts?

--
qaztroc>>

A couple. As long as we're tying this to Biblical references, bringing in
Egypt makes perfect sense. *grin*

Even better -- isn't one of the pre-registered titles for future books
_Harry_Potter_and_the_Pyramid_of_(can't remember and don't have the list at
work)?

We really have no idea (as far as I can remember...) exactly what Bill is
doing down there. Something for Gringott's. Voldemort's crew have already
messed with Gringott's once (getting past their defenses to try to steal the
PS), and the goblins don't seem to be very forgiving creatures. I don't
think they'd take very kindly to someone from LV's disciples messing with
them again, and Bill could very well be drawn directly into the line of
fire. (I'm making an assumption here that something that Voldemort will need
or want in Egypt is being guarded/held by the Bank.)

OTOH, I would expect the main Egyptian plotline to show up in the Pyramid
book. We may indeed get an inkling in HP5 of how important Egypt is to the
equation, but I'm thinking any actual travel there (and any great
possibility of losing Bill) would probably be in a later book.

Again returning to Biblical references (and LOTR, and other high fantasy), I
have no problem seeing Dumbledore as the important death in HP5, only to
return even more powerful in HP6. He has, after all, just sent off one of
his disciples to the enemy, telling him to do what he must do... (And this
death-and-rebirth identifies Dumbledore even more strongly with Fawkes, the
phoenix, named after a "traitor". A "Judas", if you will.) Since Dumbledore
knows of "other ways" that Voldemort can come back, why not use one of them
himself? And, possibly, in so doing, become a member of the "Order of the
Phoenix", an order that Voldemort desperately wants to join.

The repeated loss of use of Harry's right arm may be no more than
coincidence. Or it could signal that his wand arm is just the most logical
target. It could also foreshadow the loss of Harry's "right-hand man" (which
could be either Ron or Hermione, IMHO). Or it could be foreshadowing that
Harry will have to defeat LV in the long run WITHOUT that right arm. (His
wand? His magic? His friends? All three?)

I do have one very long-term bet. I think we'll continue to lose DADA
teachers each year (including Arabella Figg and, possibly, Snape) until
Harry graduates and takes up the post.

All just speculation, and IMHO, of course, but what fun! I'm so glad that I
found you all. *grin*

bel







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