[HPforGrownups] Re: On the subject of the portkey/triwizard cup...

[Amanda Geist]

No: HPFGUIDX 46382

Okay. Enough of this. I have only so much of my life left to live.

Revanto asked:

> OK But why would Moody/Crouch set the Portkey for a return trip? I
> don't think he'd want Harry to return. That's why I think that the
> combination of the ghosts and the power of the phoenix turned the cup
> back into a portkey giving Harry a chance to escape. Also, in GoF,
> they used the portkey once and put it with the rest of the junk
> objects. So there is a possibility that portkeys are one-way. As for
> the trigger idea, I agree with you as it's been proven to work either
> by touch or timing in GoF.

Harry wasn't supposed to return. He wasn't supposed to be able to. He was
supposed to be *dead.* I believe the return trip was intended to be taken by
Voldemort and the DeathEaters who responded, to wreak havoc.

I have not much of a life. But I spent an unreclaimable hour or so of it on
you (for the search function in Yahoo groups seriously biteth) and found you
some message numbers of my posts on the subject. In doing so, I ignored or
bypassed literally *hundreds* of other posts that came up for a search on
"portkey," and I apologize to the others who have held forth, for ignoring
their opinions.

Revento, to access any of these, go to the home site of the group, click on
"Messages" in the column on the left-hand side, and when the listing
appears, look in the teal-colored bar running across the page. There will be
a box on the right-hand side called "Msg #"; type the number you desire in
and hit "Go." You will be portkeyed to the message. I believe when the
message comes up, the replies to it show up beneath it, too, allowing
exploration of the thread (a bit).

40439 -- In which I restate my earlier postulations, in a more consolidated
format

24728 -- (references earlier message numbers, in just such a post as this)
Snippet --> And yet more ancient history: Naama asked the question in 6231
in November 2000 and started a lengthy thread called "portkey conundrum,"
In 5928, 2512, and 2427 we debated why we thought the cup portkey worked
at a touch. In 9882 (at the end) and 9254, I put forward much the same
theory that Trina did in hers, about why go through the whole Triwizard
Tourney hoo-ha to get Harry to Voldemort, and when Trina posted it we
discussed it in more depth.

14106 -- (references earlier message numbers, in just such a post as this):
Snippet --> Here's the message numbers for why we (I?) thought the cup
portkey worked at a touch: 5928, 2512, 2427. Here's the message numbers
where I am putting forward the same theory Trina (?) or somebody just did,
about why go through the whole Triwizard Tourney hoo-ha to get Harry to
Voldemort: 9882 (at the end) & 9254.

And a random message-number note, which would help answer a lot of the other
stuff you've been posting--the VFAQs, for this and other general questions,
was most recently posted to the main list in message 45999.

However, if spending your life watching Yahoomort (slowly) think is not for
you, I also found you some links. These should be "live," you only have to
click on them:

1. http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/faq/devices.html#PORTKEYS

2. This is the Mysteries & Inconsistencies FAQ: discussion of the Portkey is
not quite halfway down:
http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/faq/mysteries.html

3. Here's an essay on the subject, also in the Lexicon (sounds terribly
familiar):
http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/why_cup.html

And I cannot stress strongly enough that you play in the Lexicon and/or read
through the bigfile, for some other questions you have asked are easily
found there. Here's the main Lexicon URL:
http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/index.html

and the VFAQs (two versions) and the bigfile are the third, fourth, and
fifth items at this URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/

Enjoy.

~Amandageist, older by the minute