DEW DROP hands

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No: HPFGUIDX 46430

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> #2. Harry.
> This one I find a bit tricky.  Would he be on the watch before
> Voldemort's fall?  

Yeah, I would think so :o)  The thing I see is two different senarios 
with him being on the watch.  The first is (and of course this means 
that Dumbledore would be adding and subtracting hands as he needs, 
which we have no further evidence of the number of hands on his 
watch!) that if Dumbledore knew that Harry was one of Voldemorts 
targets, he'd want to keep tabs on him too.  The second would be that 
he's had a chance to change his watch/add/subtract hands, (maybe this 
only takes a second) as it's been *roughly* 24 hours since the 
murders. 



> #3-5. Peter, Sirius, Lupin.
> Eeehhh.  I'm not so sure.  Though if all three are part of the "old
> crowd" then I could see that they would have a purpose for being on
> the watch.

I think they were all part of the "old crowd"  I can think of 
arguments against this, as in, Dumbledore does not know who the spy 
is.  But at the same time, perhaps he knew, and that is why he was 
suprised when Sirius seems to have betrayed them.  But then, I have 
to wonder, he must have known Pettigrew was still alive.  But then 
again, maybe it doesn't see them animorphing?  Hmm . . . too many 
possibilities here.  Then again, maybe Dumbledore doesn't quite know 
how to proove that people are innocent, as he was able to spare 
Snape, the evidence against Sirius is just too much.  This would 
explain how readilly he accepts Sirius' story.



> 
> #6-7. James and Lily.
> Highly likely.  Easy way to keep watch on them from a distance.  
Also
> could be why Dumbledore knew they had been killed.

See, now here's where I'm not so sure they're on the watch anymore.  
If Dumbledore has had a chance to remove them as they've passed on, 
then who are these two hands for?




> 
> #8. Snape.
> Definitely.  Was then and still is now.  Nice to be able to keep 
tabs
> on a spy.

I definately think Snape is one of them.


> 
> #9. McGonagall.
> I'm not so sure.  Dumbledore, while he was not surprised McG was at
> Privet Dr, did not seem to expect her there.  It is vague as the
> whether she is part of the "old crowd", so maybe she is just a
> colleague and that is all.  

I admit, it's a bit hard to figure this one out.  Dumbledore does 
look at the cat, chuckle, and say "I should have known."  But, it 
doesn't show him looking at his watch before this.  After all, it's a 
pocket and not a wrist watch.  Hmm, another question just popped into 
my head, if McGonagal had talked to Hagrid and therefore knew to find 
Dumbledore there, how did she not know that Hagrid had Harry???  
Hagrid must not have had Harry at this point in time.  At any 
rate . . . 

> 
> #10. Hagrid.
> Also, very likely.  Hagrid definitely is a strong corner in
> Dumbledore's circle.  

Gotta believe he's on the watch.

> #11-12. Figg and Fletcher
> I think if the Marauders are on the watch, then Figg and Fletcher
> probably are too.

Can't argue with you :o)

 
 
> Now, granted, not all of the above may have a hand.  Some Dumbledore
> might not need to have on the watch.  Like does he need both Lily 
and
> James?

Now here is where I go back up to the top, and well, first of all, 
they may  not be there anymore because they've passed on, and 
Dumbledore took them off.  At the same time, I think he'd want both 
on there in case something happened to one but not the other.  But if 
Voldemort wasn't after Lily and Dumbledore knew that, but then again, 
he'd want to know if Voldemort were using her as leverage to get to 
James and Harry . . . 



> 
> I think it is possible for Dumbledore to have a hand dedicated to 
his
> brother Albie as well.  Nice to keep up with family like that.

There we go :o)  Could be one of the 12 hands, and could replace 
Lily.  But then who to replace James?

> I'm not sure who could be placed in the now empty hands of James and
> Lily.  Maybe Molly and Arthur.  Or Ron and Hermione.  Maybe 
Dumbledore
> likes to keep tabs on Fawkes.  Or even Buckbeak.

See, I like to think he can add many more hands ;o)  Pocket watches 
can be quite large actually.


> I'm also assuming you can't put you enemies on the watch, or
> Dumbledore could have a hand dedicated to Voldemort.  Hey!  Maybe he
> does, and that is how he *knows* where the guy is.  Hmmm, possible 
but
> probably unlikely.  Besides, being able to read the planets on
> Voldemort would be very depressing I think.

Well, here, I'm not so sure.  He could be the tab that's on there 
instead of James.  But at the same time, he always refers to 
his "Spies" knowing where Voldemort is.

> Any other suggestions or definitely no's out there?
> Melody


hehehe  We're going to get to the bottom of this one eventually 
aren't we?  

Julie