Harry sparing V'mort

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--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "ericoppen" <oppen at m...> wrote:
Rich:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Richard Thorp <obby at b...> wrote:
> > Hrm, making a good argument, but Voldie is still a human being 
> (well,> > part of him is) and killing him by his own means (Harry 
performing> an> > AK on him for instance) would still be wrong, 
morally.. I don't know> > of many people who could live with 
themselves if they killed> someone,> > even if they *really* deserved 
it.
> 
Eric:
> I do :}  It's quite different from, say, killing an acquaintance 
over > some stupid argument.  As I've said, V'mort has repeatedly 
> demonstrated that _nothing else will work to stop him._  
> Even most "real" murderers (case in point: Lizzy Borden) seem to 
get > along with themselves just fine.  It's more in bad fiction and 
TV > that you see someone so haunted by "oh, I _killed_ someone!  I 
> murdered another human being!" that they go off the deep end.  


Me:  Hmm, I'm suprised you used Lizzy Bordon.  I would be more 
inclined to compare Voldie with Charles Manson than a poor girl 
driven insane by her parents.  After all, she didn't go off killing 
others did she?  You'll have to correct me if I'm wrong.  However, 
Manson, he likes to play that he is completely sane, always trying to 
get released . . . yet we all know that if he were released, he would 
continue to manipulate the minds of people until they started to 
follow him, and the murders and other things that happened would 
continue once more.

It seems to me that we hear a LOT of stories of real life murderers 
who are incredibly sorry for what they've done, and come back to oh 
say, finding God, and making a different life for themselves.  
Whether they're really sorry or not, that's between them and God.  
And I feel sorry for the committees that have to make decisions 
concerning their life changes.

But I also feel that as Melody said, "Guys, while a debate on whether 
murder can be justified is rather interesting, the question is 
whether the moralities in the books find that kind of death 
acceptable."  And I tend to agree with Melody.  If it happens that 
Harry must kill him in order to save himself, I think that will 
happen, because it seems in line with the book.  And if for some 
reason he is saveable, Harry will attempt to do that.  I simply do 
not see the dementor's kiss as being appropriate either.  Voldie 
could offer them so much more, they'd be more inclined to help 
release him.  Besides I don't think Dumbledore will allow them to 
continue to serve Azkaban in the end.  I'm sure they'll go over to 
Voldie's side.


Just my opinion as always ;o)

Julie