Will Dumbledore give Voldemort the finger?

aja_1991 aja_1991 at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 12 21:40:04 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 46537

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Brian" <bkb042 at y...> wrote:
>   I've been sketchily following the "fatally flawed potion" 
thread, 
> and while I think that this line of thought is significant, I 
> believe that we're a little off track with it. How's this for a 
new 
> spin?
> 
>   Pettigrew's role in the recorporation was the "willing" donation 
> of his hand. More specifically, his RIGHT hand. The one with the 
> missing finger. Ron told Harry that "You know what Pettigrew's 
> mother got back after Black had finished with him? Dad told me---
The 
> Order of Merlin, First class, and Pettigrew's finger in a box." 
> 
>   The significance of this should be apparent. Dumbledore now has 
> access to the important ingredients specific to Voldemort's 
> recorporation potion. Perhaps retrieving the finger, and 
some "bone 
> of the father", is what Snape was tasked to do. After all, he IS 
the 
> potions master! (He might also enjoy getting some of Harry's 
blood, 
> too!)
> 
> What do y'all think?

So you're suggesting that having access to the same 
three "ingredients" used to revive Voldemort will allow Snape to 
brew the "antidote" -- namely, a potion to send him back to the 
state he was in?

Interesting idea, although I see two problems with this.  Of course, 
I'll remedy one by throwing out my own "where did Snape go?" 
theory. :-)

First, serving Voldemort the antidote to the potion used in the 
graveyard would not kill him, or terminate his existence in some 
way.  He'd still be in the same "vapor" mode he was in, or maybe 
even the "really ugly baby" mode pre-graveyard.  In other words, 
he'd be in the same "state" he was in when he used Quirrell to (try) 
to get the Stone, when he Imperio'd Crouch Sr. and plotted with 
Crouch Jr., when he got Wormtail to haul him around drumming up 
support, etc.  In other words, he'd still have his brain (or some 
capacity for thinking) and his voice, which is the more dangerous 
part.  Meaning, unless they get the "bone of the father" for the 
antidote, then completely destroy the rest of Voldie Sr.'s remains, 
Voldemort could be revied in the same way, or even think of some 
other way.  So it's only a temporary reprieve.  Or maybe it has more 
kick than that, and undoes the previous spell and removes V from 
existence forever.

The second problem - how exactly do they get Voldemort to take this 
potion?  Can they have Harry fly by on his Firebolt and dump it on 
Voldemort's head?  Leave it in a cake for a hungry Voldemort to find 
(a la Crabbe/Goyle in Cos)?  Invite him over for dinner at Fudge's 
place and spike the main entree?

Or, perhaps, they could get his most trusted servant to give it to 
him, never aware of what was happening.  And here's where my "where 
did Snape go?" theory comes in.

Here's my theory.  We have Snape, the former Death Eater, who is now 
loyal to Dumbledore (which is needed for this to work, so bear with 
me).  Snape therefore has "the mark," and knows when Voldemort wants 
to meet.  Snape by now is known to be loyal to Dumbledore, so he 
can't show up at the local DE meetings.  But if Snape could just 
find the right disguise, he has the wits and the background to pull 
it off.  So he could show up -- as Barty Crouch Jr.  How?  Yes, the 
dreaded Polyjuice Potion.  BCJ received the Dementor's Kiss, which 
means he has no soul, but is technically alive.  Therefore, they 
have his live body to provide the key ingredient for PJP.  

How many people know about BCJ getting the Dementor's Kiss?  None, 
since most people think he's been dead for years from a stint in 
Azkaban.  So it's not like anybody's going to believe a story about 
him getting the Kiss, and therefore they won't repeat it.  I doubt 
Dumbledore, Snape, McGonagall, and Fudge, nor the Weasleys, nor 
Madam Pomfrey, would breathe a word about this.  So for all 
Voldemort knows, BCJ is still alive, and would just be showing up a 
bit late (as expected) to touch base.  Snape doesn't even have to 
brew the potion.  Crouch was already doing so; just take some of 
that, add in some hair from BCJ, and away goes Snape to report in.  
Since the Moody disguise worked so well, Snape (as BCJ) could even 
offer to kill Snape and return to Hogwarts - again - as the 
beloved :-) Potions Master, since Dumbledore was bound to figure out 
the Moody disguise eventually.  Snape could feed false info to 
Voldemort and remain a spy for Dumbledore.

Note that this theory doesn't mean they plan to brew and administer 
the antidote described above, just that they expect to gather 
intelligence to fight Voldemort off.  But should such an antidote 
exist, it would be an interesting way to get it into Voldemort.

aja_1991 - Who realizes that the PJP seems overused but thinks it's 
due at least one more go-round, and also that somebody sitting in a 
jar in Hermione's dormitory might think this all would make a great 
front page story if she gets out...







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