Baslisk connections/Hair/Heirs and other stuff - was: Key info in CoS

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 16 10:36:26 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 46669

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Katze <jdumas at k...> wrote:
 
> I'm a firm believer that Harry can speak parseltongue naturally. He 
was just 
> over a year old and not able to talk clearly to being with when 
Lily and James 
> were killed. So it's really only sepculation that Harry got the 
talent to speak 
> parseltongue from Voldemort.

Yes, it was Dumbledore's speculation - after all, no wizard that 
wasn't bad had ever before been known as parseltongue. However, 
Voldemort *did* lose most of his powers with that failed curse that 
gave Harry the scar. Those powers just *had* to go someplace, I 
guess. Also-- Voldemort insisted on having Harry's blood.

Dumbledore's gleam of triumph: He had been right about Lily dying for 
Harry. That Harry got Voldemort's powers was *also* proven to 
Dumbledore then (that's why it had to be Harry's blood). And that 
Voldemort was now a *human*, no longer an immortal spirit.
 

> If there is a Slytherin connection, I think James might actually be 
the 
> connection to Slytherin instead of Lily. Harry has Lily's eyes, but 
he has 
> James' hair. Dumbledore says that Harry has certain traits that 
Slytherin (or 
> was of Voldemort?) prized above others, but if you look at some of 
the traits - 
> resourcefulness, certain disregard for the rules - who doesn't fit 
those?

Who doesn't fit those, is *Neville Longbottom* with his absent mind; 
standing up to his friends in the attempt of preventing them from 
breaking the rules. In this regard, Neville is most extremely NOT 
Slytherin. Absent mind doesn't suit Ravenclaw - and he says 'I should 
have been in Hufflepuff' - as he figures himself as no-good-in-
anything, thus showing an attitude that most certainly doesn't fit in 
Hufflepuff. Neville's *another* true Gryffindor - constantly polite, 
nice and humble thus showing chivalry; showing bravery by facing his 
worst fear regularly. Neville just couldn't possibly *be* anything 
else, despite his lack of confidence or disability to succeed in his 
spells. Uncle Algie tried to *scare* him into doing magic without 
success - maybe Neville simply wasn't scared enough?

Also, transfiguring ears into cactuses (which Neville does by 
accident) is advanced magic so 'nearly a squip' hardly suits Neville. 
He may have done that because he didn't want to harm innocent little 
animals... without being even aware of it, thus showing being a 
Gryffindor - not in the way of glorious heroics, but rather that of 
silent, humble and kind suffering, much like Remus Lupin. That's 
Neville's way of bravery, just as his stepping onto that trap-stair 
every single time so that no one else does...

> We know so little about Lily and even less that James - there may 
end up being 
> no connection to any of the houses at all. Though I still find it 
interesting 
> that they lived in Godric's hollow, and not Salzar's cavern.

Perhaps Harry is Godric Gryffindor's descendant, as were his father 
and grandfather. A Muggle-Potter married a Witch-Gryffindor some time 
past, I guess. She inherited the Godric Hollow, which then became 
traditional home of Potters, as well as the vault filled with gold. 
It might be that there's a Secret Passage leading from Hogwarts to 
Godric Hollow (one of those that seem to be collided. What would keep 
a wizard from shrinking the pile of stones, going past, turn and 
enlarge it again). There would be a door requiring a password that 
Fred&George never figured out, but if it was James' home, he surely 
would have known. That was, perhaps, where Lily was told to run into 
with Harry... The secret passage to *Hogwarts*- what other place 
would have been safe from Voldemort? I'm sure Sirius knows all about 
that - and every other corridor *seemingly* collapsed. Anyway, we 
only have Fred&George's word about the *collapsed* corridors...


> 
> I think you all might find this interesting...
> 
> My husband and I did some research today on the Basilisk and found 
a very 
> interesting link that got me thinking.
> 
> This particular article, 
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/b/basilisk.html, says:
> "The mythical king of the serpents. The basilisk, or cockatrice, is 
a creature 
> that is born from a spherical, yolkless egg, laid during the days 
of Sirius (the 
> Dog Star) by a seven-year-old rooster and hatched by a toad."
> 
> Further in the article we read:
> "The weasel is immune to its glance and if it gets bitten it 
withdraws from the 
> fight to eat some rue, the only plant that does not wither, and 
returns with 
> renewed strength."
> 
> The connections I see are:
> Basilisk
> Sirius
> a toad (perhaps a Longbottom connection)
> and a weasel (perhaps a Weasley connection)
> 
> I'm beginning to wonder if the Basilisk/Sirius connection might 
support the 
> 'Sirius being a Slytherin' theory.
> 
> Along with J0del, I also wonder who's toad was used to hatch the 
egg. Who's 
> Roster was used to lay the egg in the first place?
> 
> How do the Weasley's fit into this?
> 
> I also have to ask - how does a Rooster lay an egg, and can you get 
a toad to 
> sit still atop an egg long enough for it to hatch?

Well, let's see-- In my country, an Easter tradition says that 
rooster lays Easter Eggs (no one ever bothered to explain it further 
than 'it's magic'). Another, even older tradition mentions knowing a 
harm-causer's birth being essential in healing the harm - the harm-
causer will give up when the wizard/witch threaten's to call upon 
it's *parents* to deal with it. That'd confirm with rooster's voice 
killing the basilisk...

The Toad to hatch it... well, Neville has shown us how you get a toad 
to stay still: you put a hat on it!

On the day of Sirius- Ancient Egyptians used Sirius the Star to 
create their calendar.

The weasel-immunity... well, Ginny was there when the Chamber was 
opened. She was rather *central* to it, wasn't she? She *must* have 
seen the basilisk's eyes at some point, but oddly enough, didn't die 
or petrify because of it; Tom Riddle used *her* - why would L Malfoy 
choose a weasley to carry the book? Ginny's life was threatened by 
Memory of Tom Riddle, but never by the basilisk. Perhaps every 
Weasley is indeed immune to Basilisk's gaze... Or perhaps Ginny will 
turn out to be a weasel-animagus, having done it for ages without 
even knowing it herself...

-- Finwitch






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