[HPforGrownups] Lucius & Diary, Basilisk, Arthur

[Beth Loubet]

No: HPFGUIDX 46834

From: Carol Bainbridge <kaityf at jorsm.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Lucius and the Diary

>I'm sure it was also a failsafe type thing.  If something
>happened to him later, he could come back through his memory.  This is part
>of why I think Lucius knew exactly what the diary was for and how it
>worked.  I keep thinking that Lucius was helping Voldemort come back into
>power.  I don't think that he was trying to power for himself.  He had to
>know what was in that diary, which means he wouldn't try to take power by
>using an old version of Voldemort.  Maybe part of the reason that he chose
>this year to do this is that the Ministry chose this year to do raids and
>he was afraid of being caught with too many things he shouldn't have before
>he had a chance to use them.  This, of course, begs the question of why he
>hadn't done it before.  He had 12 years.  Why wait all that time?

(All IMHO, of course. <grin>) Lucius wants power. But I think he sees the
easiest way to power for himself being riding on LV's coattails. Why put out
more effort than is necessary to achieve your ends? On the other hand,
Lucius being willing to be second-best to a half-blood in the long run
doesn't seem in character. (Witness his comments to Draco about being behind
Hermione in grades. Considering Draco's personality, and Lucius' tendencies,
I'm sure that he expects Draco to make the best grades, no matter what he
has to do to get them. Why would cheating bother a Slytherin? <grin>)

Does he not KNOW that LV is a half-blood? I think he does, and plans to ride
LV's wave to power, then bide his time until he can wrest that power away
for himself, or use his influence to push a pureblood to the top.

I also think that Lucius knew exactly what he was dropping in Ginny's
cauldron, and I think he was lighting a fuse to rid the world of Harry.
Mudbloods getting hurt along the way wouldn't bother him at all, of course,
but I think that Lucius has listened to Draco's tales and complaints about
Harry, and has realized exactly how dangerous Harry is to his climb to
power. The diary had to be played now because Lucius knows about Harry and
knows that he needs to get rid of him, it was his first real chance to send
something to Harry that could possibly destroy him, and the younger Harry is
the easier he'll be to dispose of. As Harry gets older, he gets stronger,
more confident, and better trained. Lucius is no dummy -- he knows that
getting rid of Harry will only get more and more difficult, and more and
more necessary. He also tries to remove Harry's protection by removing
Dumbledore, but Dumbledore makes an end run around the Council and gets his
job back -- to Lucius' amazement and frustration.

I think that the diary was a guided missile with Harry's name on it. It
missed, and Lucius will continue to do all he can to take Harry down.


Controlling the Basilisk

"Jess" writes:
>But if Harry was a descendant of Slytherin, wouldn't that have given
>him some control over the basilisk in CoS? As in, at least confusing
>the giant snake as who was really it's master, or who was giving it
>orders? (Non cannon (not sure if this in the book): A particular line
>from the movie "Parseltongue won't save you now, Potter- the basilisk
>only responds to me." is what prompted this train of thought).

I assumed that Riddle had given the basilisk some kind of command, or
charmed it, so that it would only listen to him. Before that command had
been given, Harry could have ordered the basilisk to attack Riddle just as
easily. (It's also possible that Riddle was lying. If Harry had only TRIED
to command the basilisk after that in Parseltongue, it might have worked!
Harry has a very trusting nature, and LV and his cronies have shown a
disturbing, but understandable, tendency to use it against him. <grin>)


Arthurian Weasleys

Harkening back to an earlier post (which I can't find now...), the Weasley
names were being referenced to Arthurian legend. I was wondering -- St.
George and the Dragon? Perhaps we do lose Fred (say it isn't so!) to one of
the Malfoys, and George goes after Draco...

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