TBAY: Saboteur!Snape's Next Mission(WAS Assassin!Snape's next Victim)

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No: HPFGUIDX 46842

Okay, I have never responded to a TBAY post, but you said the magic 
word: "Snape". I will not use the regular TBAY format cuz I don't 
think I could do it, and I just have a couple comments.

Charis wrote:
"It's the ideology. I mean, you're asking me to believe that
Snape—- 
the new, redeemed, on—the—good—side—Snape would
really permit 
himself to go around * assassinating*  people? At the request of * 
Dumbledore*?  And not even in the heat of the battle when there is 
no other solution to be had, but just like that, * in cold blood*! 
No, uh—uh, no way! No * way* would Dumbledore condone something
like 
that!"

I did like the theory when I first saw it (and I know the theory 
belongs to Cindy), but the part where Dumbledore orders it is just 
off. Dumbledore is not the type of person to have other people do 
his dirty work. So I definitely agree with you.

I think Cindy said this:
"Many people think Snape will return to spying for Voldemort. That 
doesn't seem likely, though, if you think about it. Dumbledore 
announced in the Pensieve that Snape was a spy for Dumbledore. And 
Voldemort was a noxious fume seeping out of the back of Quirrell's 
turban, so Voldemort ought to know that Snape was hardly helping 
Quirrell in PS/SS."

::throws self on floor:: anything but that! no more snape-goes-back-
to-voldemort! he's not suicidal!!

Charis said:
"But, ah,! you say. Think of the way Snape blanched before he left 
the hospital wing!  Think of the way his eyes glittered! Clearly he 
is task must be of a most perilous, unsettling and (preferably) 
gruesome nature. . . Clearly Voldemort must be involved.!

So begin my comments. Porphyria did an awesome and probably time-
consuming analysis of most or all of the accounts of Snape's eyes 
glittering and him turning pale in message #46750. She concluded 
that every time Snape's eyes glittered or he turned pale, "Snape is 
thinking something aggressive, and very often he's thinking about 
his favorite subject, namely accosting some miscreant or slacker in 
the act of screwing up. . .So I'd say that whatever Snape is about 
to do at the end of GoF, he's champing at the bit. I think he's 
fantasizing about getting payback from all the evil DEs he hates and 
wants to see punished. I think he's a little excited about what he's 
doing even though he knows it's dangerous."

She also found canon where Harry turns pale and his eyes glitter, 
and it's in PS/SS when he announces to H and R that they are going 
through the trap door to presumably catch Snape stealing the SS/PS. 
So there's another way of interpreting Snape's look at the end of 
GoF.

Charis:
<snip part about something more fearful than V-Mort and looking at 
other GoF text>
"And in that case, wouldn't it be logical to suppose that, seeing as 
he was so stringent in his advise that Fudge take on that problem 
first, he himself would grapple with it before the other also? Of 
course Dumbledore turns to the Giantissue almost at once." 

Ah, but here's where I have the problem! Dumbledore DOESN'T send 
Hagrid off right away. Hagrid doesn't leave until after the school 
year has ended. Snape leaves right away.

Charis:
"There are but a very few other things he deals with first. But, oh, 
and fancy that! One of them is sending Snape off! How odd!"

Yes, exactly, he sends Snape off *right* *after* the events of GoF 
have occured. And he's back by the Leaving Feast. Whatever he did 
had to be fast, and probably nearby, as wizards cannot Apparate that 
far, and maybe not even Bangy enough to not have been noticed by the 
rest of the Wizarding World. There is a month between the third task 
and the end of the school year. However, there is not mention of 
Snape not being at Potions lessons or the lessons being cancelled, 
and no mention of anything huge happening, like Dementors being 
kicked out of Azkaban.

Charis:
"Just think of all the things that would resurface in the mind of 
the repented Death Eater Snape were he ever to be trapped by a 
Dementor! The pain, the anguish, the racking guilt and regret! What 
memories of past crimes pushed aside, out of recollection for 14 
long years would force themselves back into vivid, relentless 
recognition! Re—played again and again and again. . . wide
screen, 
Dolby Digital, the works. . . and all the while Snape on the ground, 
writhing, * screaming* in blind terror! Ohhh. . . "

While an interesting plot point, and highly likely, we have to 
remember that it is Harry telling the story. Or his POV, at least. 
Unless Snape has a Pensieve as well, or suddenly has a change of 
heart and becomes bosom buddies with Harry, it is unlikely that 
Harry would find out about Snape falling apart at Dementor's hands. 

Charis:
"If Snape is set in charge of kicking the Dementors out of Azkaban 
(or at least removing the prisoners from their influence) there 
would be nothing but Bang! I mean, just imagine the uproar on a 
political level! Dumbledore brought up against Fudge on a public, 
open forum! The petrified wizarding citizens! When Sirius Black 
escaped from Azkaban that was Big. But this, this is going to be 
Huge!"

Another problem. If Snape's task was to kick the Dementors out of 
Azkaban, wouldn't someone have noticed? If this was a Big Bang 
thing, the WW HAS to notice something has gone on. We can't just 
wait till the next school year to find this out. To me, that defeats 
the purpose of a Bangy thing.

Charis:
"'And,'" Charis finishes off addressing George this time. "'If you 
like the idea of having Snape face simply one old 
comrade—in—arms in 
order to kill him, how would you find the thought of having him come 
face to face with his old * schoolfriends* in order to be, in 
effect, their *jailer *?'"

Very interesting. Another good plot point. I have no comment on 
this, and I have spent almost an hour on this.

I love it when my replies give way to more questions. DID Snape only 
just return in time for the leaving feast? The only lesson that is 
mentioned cancelled after the third task is DADA. Did they have a 
substitute for Potions, and it was just supposed to be a given? Or 
have I found a Flint?

-Acire, who has spent far too long on this post and must get dinner 
before the dangerous squirrels come out and attack.