Snape and the Potters

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--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "melclaros" <melclaros at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Carol Bainbridge <kaityf at j...> wrote:
> 
> 
> > being killed.  I started to wonder if Harry's dream is actually 
> something 
> > of a memory. 
> 

I don't know that I'd call it a memory - perhaps a vision, as it seems 
to occur only while he's unconscious or losing consciousness.

<snippage to follow>

> there! Talk about chamber of secrets!) Anyway, I got the distinct 
> impression from Lupin's reaction that Harry could not POSSIBLY been 
> hearing Jame's voice. I don't know why, possibly because he had been 
> killed earlier? Somewhere else? And Lupin knew it. 

Or perhaps Lupin was surprised at the accuracy of what Harry was 
describing. He was, after all, only a baby when this happened (Harry, 
of course, not Lupin!) so the fact that he can bring up these sorts of 
details would come as a surprise to Lupin.

> Now, I don't know if the voice Harry heard was actually Snape trying 
> to give a final, desperate and doomed warning or if it was, in fact, 
> James but I am CONVINCED Snape was at Godric's Hollow that night in 
> Some Capacity. I am also sure he's connected to the "missing" 24 
> hours. You have some good ideas there. Snape was in mortal danger 
> from any DE's who might have also been at the scene and witnessed 
> this betrayal. A performance like that would CERTAINLY be enough to 
> cement DD's trust in Severus Snape AND explain why in GoF he would be 
> reluctant to tell Harry the reasons for that trust. 

Well, let's put it this way. If it /wasn't/ James who was shouting to 
Lily, the most logical alternative is for it to be one of Voldemort's 
supporters. Otherwise you have to come up with a reason for him /not/ 
to A.K. whoever it is, and from GoF we know that James was killed 
immediately before Lily.

I put forth that the man Harry hears in his vision could be Pettigrew. 
At that point in PoA, Harry had not met him, so that would explain why 
he didn't recognize the voice as definitely someone other than James. 
Lily would, of course, realize that Peter had sold them out and that 
he was lying to her about delaying Voldemort, but would also know that 
at that point it didn't really matter.

However, I am still unconvinced that it /wasn't/ James. Lupin has 
strong reactions *each* time Harry mentions having the vision - bottom 
of p.187, middle of p. 239. This is before he says he heard James. I 
think that Lupin is concerned for Harry's well-being.


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