MAGIC DISHWASHER is not a valid theory

[Grey Wolf]

No: HPFGUIDX 47216

Christopher Nuttall wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have strong doubts about MD as a explanation for Dumbledore's behaviour.  It would seen GROSSLY irresponsible for Dumbledore to
> 
> a) Leave Harry Potter with the dursleys when he needs to learn as 
> much magic as possible.  

If you force a child to learn everything he can to save the world, you 
destoy any chance to ever be a person. He might as well become paranoic 
and without any sense of morality. And then, you'd have another 
Voldemort in your hands (apart from the old one). There is a series of 
books (by A. C. Clarke, I think, but all my books are back at home and 
I can't even remember the name of the boy) that explores that 
possibility, and the outcome is not particularly nice. Dumbledore 
wouldn't do that to Harry. By the way, you are jumping to the 
conclusion that all Dumbledore needs in MD to win is a powerful Harry. 
Don't remember the theory ever stating that - were did you get that 
from?

> Snape or Lupin could have made surrogate parents for him instead, 
> Snape providing the angotiam.  

I have searched my dictionaries for "angotiam". It doesn't come up in 
any of them. Please re-state your phrasing. And Lupin wouldn't fulfill 
the plan we do know about: raising Harry away from the WW. Apart from 
the inherent danger of leaving a 1 year-old in charge of someone who 
*eats* children one week out of every four.

> Secondly, there are flaws in whatever defences exist round privet 
> drive, as Fred, George, dobby and Mr. Wesley all manage to break in 
> at one point or another.

Again, I don't see how this ties with MD or how it makes it less of a 
theory. The protection was designed to stop Voldemort from making 
another attempt on Harry. Since we are unsure of what the protection 
is, there is no way to speak about it's efectivity. But so far it seems 
to have worked. The only proof about how good it is is in PoA: some 
have theorized that Sirius was just in the limits of the protection, 
unable to get closer to Harry.

But, as I say, what has this got to do with MD? If anything, the fact 
that there is a protection points towards the fact that Dumbledore was 
indeed planned things way back after Voldemort's fall.

> b) Allow Fudge to remain as MFM when he is at the least incompetent 
> and at worst a dark supporter.  Even if he did not want the job 
> himself, there are a few other people who could have taken is, such 
> as barty crouch.

Dumbledore is not God, and he certainly does not rule the WW. Once he 
refuses to be the Minister, there is little more he can do to influence 
the election, short of going into politics, which I think he wouldn't 
do. Crouch wasn't elected because he wasn't popular anymore (after his 
own son had turned out to be a DE). But that is besides the point: 
Dumbledore might suggest someone for the job, but he doesn't have the 
power you give him, not in a democratic country.

> c) Not to have made any serious attempt to track and catch 
> Vapor!mort.  If Peter can find him, so can Dumbledore.  If the 
> tracker needed the dark mark, snape has one to use. 

And he would want to do that because...?

You see, Dumbledore knows where Voldemort is ("My latest reports said 
that Lord Voldemort is hiding in a forest in Albania", CoS). Simply, 
there is nothing he can do about it. When Voldemort decides to come out 
of the forest, Dumbledore will goad him into using the potion, but 
until then Dumbledore won't go for him. What for? Vapourmort is 
immortal, so you gain nothing by attacking him in that state.

Besides, there is this particular image I cannot shake: a wizard goes 
close to Voldemort and gets possesed. Like Quirrell did. And then 
Dumbledore not only looses another ally, but everything that ally knew 
is now told to Voldemort. No, I don't see an advantage in that.

Also, I have answered that sort of argument many times before. You 
should try and read some of the most basic posts on MAGIC DISHWASHER: I 
grow very tired (and so must many other listees) by these constant 
repetitions.

> d) To have allowed Quraiil to have come to the school carrying 
> Voldemort with him.

Again, Dumbledore is not omniscient. An information war is not a 
solitary, it's not even a chess game. Dumbledore makes moves that hopes 
Voldemort won't be able to see, and Voldemort was doing exaclty the 
same. It is entirely possible that Dumbledore didn't know that 
"Quraiil" was possesed.

The other possible explanation -the one I prefer- is the fact that 
Quirrelmort was no real danger: any attacks on Harry would be difficult 
since there are many teachers around to stop him, and the PS was 
protected in a way that Voldemort would never be able to brake: the 
mirror of erised trick. Thus, he was allowed to stay for a reason: that 
maybe Harry would be able to permanently destroy him if he where to 
face him and, if not, he'd at least get the chance to learn about his 
own powers with respect to Voldemort. 
 
> e) To have allowed Voldemort's rebirth to re-threaten the WW once 
> again.  

Oh, no, NOT AGAIN! We talked to death about this less than a week ago. 
I'm NOT going through the morality of the flametrap house. Go fight the 
archives for that.

Besides, you've got it wrong: he doesn't allow Voldemort to resurrect: 
he goads him into doing so. AND using a method that will be his 
downfall. If Voldemort had used any other method (apart from being 
catastrophic for the WW), Dumbledore wouldn't have in a position to 
"allow" or "stop" him. MD!Dumbledore, as I say, is NOT an omnipotent, 
omniscient god. He's just a man that tries to put Voldemort into a 
position where he can be destroyed.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf